Posted on 04/15/2012 3:20:50 PM PDT by svxdave
If Governor Fortuno is such a good leader in Puerto Rico he’d best stay there to serve.
Speak for yourself. Everyone doesn’t plan on cutting off their noses to spite their faces.
Best thing would be if we ALL (conservatives) agreed on the same write in candidate, but that just isn’t going to happen.
This story was certainly planted by the Romney campaign. Pretending to consider a Hispanic is a cheap way to try to win Hispanic votes.
The irony is that McCain did the same in 2008 when he pretended to consider Romney, in an effort to appeal to the Romney supporters.
Wouldn’t he have to establish residence in a U.S. State?
I agree Puerto Rico is U.S. territory.
But I don’t think it will happen.
I refuse to put sarcasm tags on anything I post. I leave it up to reader to determine whether I have a bucket full of noses or whether I voted for McCain, Dole or Bush I. Hint: I can smell the difference between a communist and a socialist.
“Sleeper” meaning they want to squeeze even the last vestiges of excitement from the ticket.
Why should you place sarcasm tags? You did not mean sarcasm, at least that’s not what I gathered from reading your past FR posts.
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZ...........I’ll never vote for a VP again.
There is nobody that the GOP can use to polish “turd Romney”.
Nobody.
I’d guess the odds of a Romney VP standing to pee are next to nil.
This makes it appear he has a good record on the financial side of governing and is acceptable on social issues.
I noticed on the prior thread, moonbat birthers are already taking flight.
Actually I did mean sarcasm. I have fought the conservative fight since Goldwater I’m retired so the communist state we will arrive at during another 4 years of Obama wouldn’t affect me that much. However I have children and grandchildren that I fear for. Anyone (I mean anyone)that has a chance of getting Obama out has my vote.
Here is some real facts for you: Puerto Rico in an unincorporated territory and, as per the U.S. Supreme Court, not a part of the United States.
The key here is unincorporated territory.
(For comparison, Arizona was an “incorporated territory” and considered part of the U.S.A. before becoming a state.)
The Puerto Ricans are granted citizenship per Congress, which the Congress can revoke at any time. Their citzenship is strictly statutory as neither Congress nor the Supreme Courts decisions recognize PR as part of the United States.
Natural Born citizenship is not a form of citizeship, it is an eligibility requirement to be President or VP. One must be born within the US of parents who are citizens.
Panama is also an unincorporated territory and children born in the Canal Zone to U.S. parents are considered citizens-by-statute but not natural born citizens as the Panama Canal Zone IS NOT a part of the United States.
The following is from Wikipedia and pertains to the Panama Canal Zone, but it is a good example of how the Surpreme Court decided that the Constitution DID NOT follow the flag:
Although the Panama Canal Zone was legally an unincorporated U.S. territory until the implementation of the Torrijos-Carter Treaties in 1979, questions arose almost from its inception as to whether the Zone was considered part of the United States for constitutional purposes, or, in the phrase of the day, whether the Constitution followed the flag. In 1901 the U.S. Supreme Court had ruled in Downes v. Bidwell that unincorporated territories are not the United States.[26] On July 28, 1904, Controller of the Treasury Robert Tracewell stated: While the general spirit and purpose of the Constitution is applicable to the zone, that domain is not a part of the United States within the full meaning of the Constitution and laws of the country.[27] Accordingly, the Supreme Court held in 1905 in Rasmussen v. United States that the full Constitution only applies for incorporated territories of the United States.[28] Until the rulings in these so-called Insular Cases, children born of two U.S. citizens in the Canal Zone had been subject to the Naturalization Act of 1795, which granted statutory U.S. citizenship at birth. With the ruling of 1905 persons born in the Canal Zone only became U.S. nationals, not citizens.[29] This no mans land with regard to U.S. citizenship was perpetuated until Congress passed legislation in 1937, which corrected this deficiency. The law is now codified under title 8 section 1403.[30] It not only grants statutory and declaratory born citizenship to those born in the Canal Zone after February 26, 1904, with at least one U.S. citizen parent, but also did so retroactively for all children born of at least one U.S. citizen in the Canal Zone before the laws enactment.[31]”
Do you understand now?
Don’t know shite about this dude, maybe greatest thing since sliced bread, but BUT what about his NBC status? Or are we now just going let that pesky little detail be ignored?
Awesome let’s put someone who has almost no experience with the US tax system, and that cant even claim residency in a US state, a heartbeat away from the Presidency.
It fits with all of RINOmny’s other picks. He makes his decisions based upon “diversity” and pandering to potential voting blocs.
Good thing he wasn't elected or we might have found ourselves stuck with a President whose eligibility was open to question.
The Constitution (Art. IV, Sec. 3) says that Congress "shall have Power to dispose of and make all needful Rules and Regulations respecting the Territory or other Property belonging to the United States..."
Does that power include the right to say that people born in a particular piece of property belonging to the United States are citizens?
I know of no requirement in the Constitution that the President be resident in a State.
Being Puerto Rican with a knife is too!
Amendment 12:
It doesn’t seem reasonable that Puerto Rico could get both halves of the ticket more easily than a U.S. state could.
“Does that power include the right to say that people born in a particular piece of property belonging to the United States are citizens?”
Sure looks that way. The Supreme Court has reveiwed the situation twice and twice declared that Puerto Rico is not a part of the United States.
Puerto Rico was a spoil of war, won from Spain around the turn of the 20th century. It was granted Commonwealth status and basically the Puerto Ricans govern themselves.
All that is necessary to change that status is for Puerto Rico to vote for statehood, which has not happened. A small sector of that island’s population desires independence and a larger sector prefers to maintain things as they are now.
Whether statehood is chosen or not depends on the people of Puerto Rico.
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