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Mathematics of Eternity Prove The Universe Must Have Had A Beginning
MIT Technology Review ^ | 04/26/2012

Posted on 04/26/2012 3:13:30 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind
The cause does not necessarily have to be plural...true - nice to hear we can at least consider a cause....
61 posted on 04/27/2012 9:42:03 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: Sacajaweau
Prot: "I wanna tell you something Mark, something you do not yet know, that we K-PAXians have been around long enough to have discovered. The universe will expand, then it will collapse back on itself, then will expand again. It will repeat this process forever. What you don't you know is that when the universe expands again, everything will be as it is now. Whatever mistakes you make this time around, you will live through on your next pass. Every mistake you make, you will live through again, and again, forever. So my advice to you is to get it right this time around. Because this time is all you have."


62 posted on 04/27/2012 9:49:52 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: BereanBrain
I believe it’s behind/around Polaris.

One last time, what do you believe what is behind Polaris?

63 posted on 04/28/2012 12:08:28 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Son-Joshua

That’s what Kant said...It’s called FAITH.


64 posted on 04/28/2012 3:39:18 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: varmintman
Had to post this.


65 posted on 04/28/2012 12:51:53 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Evidence, and reasonable inference from evidence.)
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To: varmintman
OK, we need to have a better look at this. Posting it again, bigger

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66 posted on 04/28/2012 12:54:16 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Evidence, and reasonable inference from evidence.)
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To: varmintman
OK, we need to have a better look at this. Posting it again, bigger

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67 posted on 04/28/2012 12:54:25 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Evidence, and reasonable inference from evidence.)
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To: dragnet2

Nothing.

If there *is* one place in the universe I would look (if I could) for a “origin 0,0,0), it would be past the polaris system


68 posted on 04/28/2012 9:44:12 PM PDT by BereanBrain
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To: SeekAndFind
However, Hoyle much preferred a different model of the cosmos: a steady state universe with no beginning or end, that stretches infinitely into the past and the future. That idea never really took off.

This actually was the predominant theory from Aristotle's time until the 1950's, except among those of us who believe Genesis. Only about 2500 years or so.

69 posted on 04/28/2012 10:00:34 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: BereanBrain
I believe it’s behind/around Polaris.

One last time, what do you believe is behind Polaris?

Nothing.

I'll let you can get back to your meditation now.

70 posted on 04/28/2012 10:58:00 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

I guess you are the sole person in the universe then who can prove a negative.


71 posted on 04/28/2012 11:04:56 PM PDT by BereanBrain
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To: BereanBrain
I believe it’s behind/around Polaris.

What do you believe is behind/around Polaris?

Nothing.

There is no need to go any further here. See ya!

72 posted on 04/29/2012 9:07:02 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: varmintman

E = MC squared

Seeing as how God is all powerful [E] then He could simply remove His power from the Universe and poof all matter [M] disappears too. Furthermore His Word says he’ll fold up creation like a scroll and then replace them with a new Heaven and a new Earth.


73 posted on 05/01/2012 11:56:46 AM PDT by BrandtMichaels
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To: Boogieman; Hot Tabasco

When Adam and Eve sinned death and destruction entered into all of God’s creation. But He promises in Revelation 21 or 22 iirc to reverse the curse then a.) restore this Earth and Universe as He intended for 1000 years and b.) create a new Heaven and Earth after the 1000 years.


74 posted on 05/01/2012 12:24:38 PM PDT by BrandtMichaels
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To: Boogieman; Hot Tabasco; All

I believe that before sin, God’s creation was perfect.

I freely admit it is mainly conjecture what a perfect world would look like, but didn’t God say he gave them the plants and fruit of the trees for food?

I’m an old school COBOL programmer so by my reckoning it is easy to see that it would require a far superior intelligence to write [and then after the fall re-write] the DNA that varies from approx one half-billion lines of quad-code [a, c, t, & g] for bacteria upto approx 50 billion for some of the more exotic and often times extinct DNA code found [i.e. the Marbled Lungfish, and the Paris Japonica with the largest known genome]. Incidentally, the larger the genome the more they are prone to extinction so it is good that mankind only has approx 3 billion LOC. But it is also very interesting the man made in God’s image is still considered to be the highest, and most complex life form which must be attributed mainly to intrinsic qualities not found in the physical genome.

Did you know man’s brain has an estimated 6 peta byte capacity [mega, giga, tera, then peta] and our brain [mainframe] and nervous system/spinal column [network] is over a million times as powerful as modern day personal computers?

In my own imaginations none of the present plants nor animals are the same as they were in Paradise. None of them needed a digestive tract that expelled waste b/c all food was 100% nutritious. So no carnivores [no sharp teeth nor claws] b/c none were meat-eaters. No plants were poisonous nor bacteria, or virii deadly. The whole creation was cursed by sin with death and destruction.

In the millennial reign of Christ, Revelation indicates the original order will be restored, the lamb will lie down with the lion, and even a child will place his hand in a nest of adders and not be harmed.

Furthermore, I believe the Noahic Flood brought forth the first rain, along with the bursting of the fountains of the great deep, and the tearing open of the upper atmosphere - Gen 7:11 and subsequently all manner of natural disasters, many local floods and the ice-ages. I also believe Dr. Brown has found much astrological, geological and fossil evidence in support of this in addition to what the Bible only hints.

Lastly, I would not doubt that mankind got too smart for his own good and is primarily responsible for all manner of natural disasters ~ in Noah’s day he most likely drilled approx 10 miles deep into Earth’s crust [probably mining for precious metals] and caused the fountains of the great deep to explode open [1 pint of supercritical water = 1 stick of dynamite], resulting in 40 days of torrential rain, tearing a rift in the crust and up through the upper atmosphere mostly north/south and circumventing the globe, caused the breaking up of the continents and tech-tonic plates, vulcanism, earthquakes, tornadoes, hurricanes, typhoons, major uplifts of mountain ranges and even deeper crevasses in the oceans [crevasses that just happen to parallel all the major mountain ranges. This is a brief description of the hydroplate theory ~ for more see section II of:
Center for Scientific Creation - In the Beginning: Compelling Evidence for Creation and the Flood
http://www.creationscience.com/onlinebook/IntheBeginningTOC.html

Is it really any wonder that the Bible records life spans for man of almost 1000 years pre-flood and only 120 years post-flood?

103 posted on Tuesday, May 01, 2012 1:41:30 PM by BrandtMichaels


75 posted on 05/01/2012 12:28:09 PM PDT by BrandtMichaels
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