I congratulate you AGAIN on properly executing a poisoned well. Anyone who responds, by implication in your argument, is proving your point. It is set up so that no one can respond without being discredited. That is why it is a logical fallacy because it doesn't deal with the argument but attacks preemptively any responder.
I mean, if they had such problems when others didn't, then they must have brought it on themselves, right?
Yes, to some degree. Somehow trouble always followed the Mormons from New York to Ohio to Illinois to Missouri. Given that these types of troubles didn't plague the other groups suggests that the claims of persecution without cause are exaggerated. Notice that I didn't say completely unfounded, just overstated. Historical documents, both Mormon and non-Mormon, suggest that there is some blame both ways.
Those little kids, those women, etc.? That somehow they did something to deserve such treatment?
EMPHATICALLY, NO. Even if the claims of those who attacked the Mormons were true, their response was totally inappropriate and they should have been charged with high crimes.
NONE OF IT, neither the MMM was in any way justified or made right, or the killings of the LDS by the mobs in Missouri and Illinois. They were all abohrant.
On that, we can agree. However, let's remember that it was you who opened this can of worms by providing the "context" of Mormon persecution to "explain" the MMM.
I gave context to dirtboy about a disucssion regarding MMM. In that context I readily admitted and still do that what happened at MMM was in no way justrafied by what went on earlier...but that things did in fact go on earlier where LDS people were also massacred.
That's all. You then came in and pontificated on my comments.
But, I am also willing to end it with the agrrement that you noted...because that was my point all along.
NONE OF IT, neither the MMM was in any way justified or made right, or the killings of the LDS by the mobs in Missouri and Illinois. They were all abohrant.
On that, we can agree.
So, with that agreemenmt, which was I was getting at...have a great weekend.