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To: PieterCasparzen
The British Commonwealth can’t defend Australia from China without American help. True. But why would we expect to have to.

Since the Second World War, Australia has gone to war in support of the United States in Vietnam, Afghanistan, and twice in the Gulf (I don't count Korea as that was technically a UN operation). In none of these cases was Australia attacked or under direct threat. We went to war to support US interventions - we expect that if we ever need it, the US will support us - and on the few occasions, we've asked (most notably in East Timor) the US has supported us.

The Chinese population is more than 1.3 billion, while there are a total of just under 23 million Australians, a population less than 2% of the size of China’s.

The Commonwealth of Nations (the current name for what was the British Commonwealth), just for the record, has a combined population of over 2 billion people - just for the record, seeing they've been mentioned. A lot of that is in India - it is still a Commonwealth nation - and if China was a threat to Australia, they'd almost certainly be a threat to India as well.

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The Queen’s speech to open parliament has become a sheer disgrace as an homage to leftist causes, with a monarch effectively sputtering the thing as if held hostage; I can find no other explanation as the Queen obviously is learned in tradition and history, is quite intelligent and of wonderful character. IMHO, she long ago simply saw the handwriting on the wall as British monarchs increasingly have since Queen Victoria. I do not fault the Queen but the subjects for their rejection of Christ and God’s Law; the groundwork for today’s dismal situation was laid by some leaders of European and American society going back to the 1800’s.

The Queen is a constitutional Monarch and she treats the British Constitution with reverential respect. Her speech to Parliament reflects that - it is written by the government of the day, and she is constitutionally required to present it as written. That is her constitutional role. The Queen does have powers to be used in emergency situations - but as long as a democratically elected Parliament remains within its constitutional parameters, she can not use those powers. And so far that is the case.

And for the record, she is legally speaking a hostage. That is how it actually works. Today it is mostly symbolic, but when the Queen attends the State Opening of Parliament, she is placing herself in their hands - and Parliament is required to place a Member of the House of Commons in her hands to guarantee her safety - a Member of Parliament is sent to Buckingham Palace as a hostage and held under guard. Parliament decapitated the last Monarch who tried to exceed their constitutional authority by forcing their will on Parliament in a way that they should not.

28 posted on 05/23/2012 4:00:40 PM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975
True. But why would we expect to have to.

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we expect that if we ever need it, the US will support us - and on the few occasions, we've asked (most notably in East Timor) the US has supported us.


Many people in the nations known as Western Civilization have decided to reject God. These nations have been deeply infected with the poisonous idea that socialism and communism is the way to go.

So Western Civilization is in debt up to it's eyeballs and in the process of financial collapse, on top of a complete moral collapse.

The UK is cutting back on military logistics spending, but insists on not cutting socialist giveaways. The U.S. is sliding towards socialism and insolvency.

While there are many Americans who would be right there to back Australia, we need to influence our own government (like ALL Western nations) to swing politically back towards righteousness and away from lying to ourselves.

Between WWI and WWII, the American population, along with most of Europe, became so insanely anti-war that they wound up causing WWII to be utterly catastrophic. If the good nations had taken care of business 10-15 years before war broke out, untold misery could have been avoided.

Of course, if there is no political "backbone" for standing up for what's right, Australia, the Commonwealth and the U.S. may just decide to capitulate without even so much as discussion of a military response. All China needs to target is a gradual encroachment on national sovereignty, which globalists are working away on 24 hours a day.

The Commonwealth of Nations (the current name for what was the British Commonwealth), just for the record, has a combined population of over 2 billion people - just for the record, seeing they've been mentioned. A lot of that is in India

IMHO, (this is just an amateur guess) an overwhelming Chinese invasion that had the element of surprise has so little to conquer in Australia that it would take far too short a time for India to decide to respond. Remember, the U.S. military is actually moving AWAY FROM capabilities for large conventional battlefields and shifting resources towards little house-to-house, small teams, etc., i.e., the "new war" type of mentality. The big brain strategists say we don't have any more large conventional enemies.

In the same way there was a long buildup time before both Gulf Wars, this would be needed to take back Australia. If this is a few years from now and Western economies are in shambles and militaries have been drastically reduced, this seems like possibly an insurmountable hurdle politically and economically.

Regarding the Queen, I agree with your comments. The degree to which the far left has permeated U.K. thinking and government is, however, IMHO, a grave mistake. I always am shocked when I hear how out of touch with reality the "left" is whenever I catch some of the Prime Minister's questions.

Truly, the U.K. is a relic of it's former self and many people refuse to admit how insignificant the U.K. has become militarily. While they do have nuclear subs, the implications of using these "last resort" weapons means they would undoubtedly not be used if a conventional war is being lost but the U.K. island itself is not being threatened. Hence, if the U.S. conventional forces are dropped to far below what they are now and no one is there to cover other nation's backs, the whole geo-political game will have changed.

IMHO, the U.S. needs to get back on track.
33 posted on 05/23/2012 7:31:36 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves.)
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