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To: nvscanman

“Autism has been around since long before most modern vaccines.
What caused those cases.....

Autism is diagnosed in people who have not been vaccinated.
What caused those cases.....”

In those cases, when the cases were 1 in 10000 it was most likely genetic (which both of my sons were tested for, and proved that it was NOT genetic in their cases)
Since the 70’s cases of autism in children has spiked by 2700%- 3000%
So you tell me, what caused that?
In 2000 and 2002, the autism estimate was about 1 in 150 children. Two years later 1 in 125 8-year-olds had autism. In 2006, the number was 1 in 110, and the newest data — from 2008 — suggests 1 in 88 children have autism. So... What caused that?


26 posted on 06/24/2012 2:17:21 AM PDT by yank in the UK ( A liberal mocking Christianity. I asked "why don't you mock Islam?" he replied "Muslims are violent)
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To: yank in the UK

In the US at least, there are likely three factors all combining for the increase in autism diagnoses:

1) The definition of autism was officially broadened to include a whole ‘spectrum’, whereas it was once a very limited and extreme diagnosis.

2) There is funding now for both schools and parents with kids given the diagnosis, which has encouraged parents of children with all kinds of developmental, behavioral and mental disorders to seek an autism diagnosis—and professionals to give one.

3) Some sort of environmental/exposure factor is also likely involved, as we know that the incidence of fairly severe autism has increased in certain regions and populations quite dramatically.

That #3 is still unclear, but I wonder have you seen and investigated the newly discovered potential link to antidepressants, as posted on this thread?


42 posted on 06/24/2012 4:01:50 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: yank in the UK

I have a 17 year old grandchild sho is severely autistic. He was developing normally until he was given a rash of vaccines by his pediatrician (when he was one and a half years old) in preparation for a family move from Ohio to NJ.

You can look at the family videos and see an engaged, normal little boy assume the dis-engaged look of an autistic practically over night. He’s been to all kinds of special schools and undergone all kinds of therapies, but I haven’t see a lot of progress over the years. My daughter definitely blames the vaccines.

What I don’t get is why the vaccine supporters are so adament in their denials? Nobody is asking to have the vaccines denied — only to have them separated (MMR, Dip-Per-Tet) and spaced. IOW, Mumps one month and Measles 6 weeks later. Perhaps given at a slightly older age. My daughter (and all my other children) did that with my other grandchildren with no ill effects. But, it always requires an argument with the medical personnel.

What/who are the nay-sayers trying to protect?


88 posted on 06/24/2012 7:08:42 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: yank in the UK

Did autism increase by leaps and bounds or is it being vastly overdiagnosed. The same issue occurs with ADD/ADHD....
is it really more prevalent or is it being hugely overdiagnosed.
Both conditions are based on clinical judgement, not objective
lab or imaging tests like most diseases.


130 posted on 06/25/2012 1:25:14 AM PDT by nvscanman
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