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To: pgyanke

Here’s what I have read from multiple, conflicting sources out of the Detroit press:

1. The weapon was a S&W M&P .40, department-issue.

The DPD claims that their weapons “don’t have a safety,” and the M&P’s 1911-style slide safety is optional. I’ll get to that in a sec.

The M&P .40 reporting is backed up by S&W press releases about the DPD contract in 2009. So if we are, in fact, talking about a department-issued pistol, it was a M&P in .40 S&W.

Without the optional slide safety, the M&P has a trigger safety like a Glock and internal safety blocks to prevent discharge upon being dropped.

2. I have seen consistent reporting that the pistol was in a waistband holster, under the cop’s shirt.

3. I have seen three conflicting reports in the Detroit press as to how the woman was hugging the LEO: From behind, in front and around his knees.

I think it is pretty obvious that it would take an extraordinary sequence of events for the deceased to have been shot in the heart and lung from a waistband-carried rig if she were hugging the LEO from the front or the back, unless he was 7’ tall and she was a very short person.

There’s something else going on here, the DPD isn’t reporting it.

As for the “our pistols don’t have a safety” line from the DPD press interview: This is going to bite them badly in court, should a lawyer want to make hay. S&W offered an additional manual safety on the pistol and DPD didn’t avail themselves of this option? Hoooooo.


52 posted on 07/09/2012 11:05:36 AM PDT by NVDave
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To: NVDave
There’s something else going on here, the DPD isn’t reporting it.

Yeah, like he was DANCING WITH HIS WIFE when a strange woman came up and grabbed him from behind.

Not too hard to figure out what happened next. Of course, I am sure he wiped his wife's fingerprints off the trigger before the EMT's and POLICE arrived.

65 posted on 07/09/2012 1:27:53 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: NVDave
I think it is pretty obvious that it would take an extraordinary sequence of events for the deceased to have been shot in the heart and lung from a waistband-carried rig if she were hugging the LEO from the front or the back, unless he was 7’ tall and she was a very short person.

With a waistband-holstered gun, the only scenario where I could see the bullet entering her chest is if she was on her knees giving him head at the time.

74 posted on 07/09/2012 3:46:46 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (If I can't be persuasive, I at least hope to be fun.)
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