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Sexism played role in Penn St. horror
Fox Sports ^ | July 13, 2012 | Jason Whitlock

Posted on 07/13/2012 5:39:51 PM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty

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To: workerbee
Whitlock isn't implying the men involved were homosexuals.

Nothing I said suggested he was implying that. But he did say:

Only a group of men could find Sandusky’s mental illness more sympathetic than the victims’ suffering.

and

We think with the wrong head.

I'm afraid Whitlock is projecting with those statements. Most normal men will not be more sympathetic with a molester than with a child victim. And most men will not "think with the wrong head" when it comes to adults molesting children.

41 posted on 07/13/2012 7:17:04 PM PDT by Will88
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To: Will88
Then how would you explain what happenened? Were Paterno & Co. "normal" men? If not, what? Homosexual pedophiles? No.... then, what's left? Old-boy, football culture blindness...? That's my take.

It's not altogether unreasonable to see how a female, in the midst of all that, could have prevented years of tragedy. Is it?

If what ends up is lots of "female meddling" in male collegiate sports, don't blame the women. It was all the "normal" men who kept giving this crap a pass.

42 posted on 07/13/2012 7:24:17 PM PDT by workerbee (June 28, 2012 -- 9/11 From Within)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I have to agree with you...also, what about Mrs. Sandusky? You can’t tell me that she knew nothing about what her husband was doing. Talk about complete and utter moral failures all across the board.


43 posted on 07/13/2012 7:30:02 PM PDT by InspectorGadget
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To: bill1952

Paterno, and people who defend him, are/were pure unmitigated trash.


44 posted on 07/13/2012 7:30:29 PM PDT by Lucas McCain
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To: Will88
I'm afraid Whitlock is projecting with those statements. Most normal men will not be more sympathetic with a molester than with a child victim. And most men will not "think with the wrong head" when it comes to adults molesting children.

Whether you agree or not with his conclusions, the facts are that of all of the men who knew about it, NONE did anything about it. What ever the reason was, whether it was protecting the school's image, sympathy, or anything else, all of these men decided it was more important than the victims.

It's easy to say "there is no way I would have let this happen". I'm sure that any of these men, if asked beforehand what they would have done, would have said that they would have reported it or in some way tried to put a stop to it. That they didn't and why is worth discussing, even if you don't agree with this writer's conclusions.

45 posted on 07/13/2012 7:32:49 PM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (With choices like Palin, Cain, and Bachmann, what could go wrong? Now we know.)
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To: bill1952

If that scumbag JoPa was the most decent man you ever met, I feel sorry for you. I’m lucky, most of the people I have met in life are way better people than the pedophilia enabling JoPa.


46 posted on 07/13/2012 7:44:35 PM PDT by gusty
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To: Mrs. Don-o
This is a load...

The rot started at the top. Take a look at Spanier's doctoral dissertation, or the recent "C*&tfest" at Happy Valley.

Not saying JoePa was a participant, but there's been a precipitous moral decline there for a while.
47 posted on 07/13/2012 7:48:34 PM PDT by BikerJoe
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To: TwelveOfTwenty

First, this guy has a long history of being a diversity racist, in my opinoin. So his solution is to insert the morally superior sex - women - into leadership to solve the problem.

He has not read all the stories about female perverts hiting on underage boys and girls in the public schools? Female perverts are a dime a dozen as are male perverts.

The answer is to educate the targets - children and their parents about perverts preying upon them and how to handle them.


48 posted on 07/13/2012 7:55:28 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: bill1952

Oh like you knew his inner self and everything he was capable of.
/disgust


49 posted on 07/13/2012 7:58:45 PM PDT by Shimmer1 (government health officials seem to have the haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty
Whether you agree or not with his conclusions, the facts are that of all of the men who knew about it, NONE did anything about it.

So? Do you think I said in anything I wrote that they did do anything about it?

You are posting comments about things that were never said and that have little to do with anything I've posted here.

And Whitlock's conclusions are nonsense, or maybe you think most men would be more sympathetic with a male child molester than with the victims, or that men who were aware of such criminal behavior would "think with the wrong head" when considering an adult male who had molested male children.

50 posted on 07/13/2012 8:01:23 PM PDT by Will88
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To: Will88; TwelveOfTwenty
maybe you think most men would be more sympathetic with a male child molester than with the victims,

They were at Penn St.

51 posted on 07/13/2012 8:19:29 PM PDT by workerbee (June 28, 2012 -- 9/11 From Within)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty

Yes, because institutions run by women never become corrupt. What a bunch of crap.


52 posted on 07/13/2012 8:29:56 PM PDT by Random_User_250
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To: workerbee
They were at Penn St.

So you think the four at PS are indicative of how most men would have handled such a situation?

53 posted on 07/13/2012 8:32:58 PM PDT by Will88
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To: TwelveOfTwenty
The article is nonsense. Whitlock may think about boys with his tiny little head, but Paterno and company were thinking about nothing but protecting the university and the football program. Whitlock should not project his feelings onto other men. Any woman immersed in the culture of PSU would have covered the whole thing up to. The men and coaches I know would have made Sandusky disappear if the law refused to act.
54 posted on 07/13/2012 8:40:10 PM PDT by Jay Redhawk
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To: Will88

I know that at Penn St., the “normal” men who should’ve known better all sat around and let this continue, for years. Do you disagree?


55 posted on 07/13/2012 8:42:13 PM PDT by workerbee (June 28, 2012 -- 9/11 From Within)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty
Here is the crux of Whitlock's 'reasoning'. Anyone who believes that's sound reasoning, well, they are telling about their world view on this subject, just as Whitlock told us his:

The Penn State tragedy is a disaster rooted in sexism and man’s lack of sexual control.

We (men) think with the wrong head.

I do not say that to be crass or rude or flippant. It’s a reality that should not be ignored when assessing how four men in leadership positions could decide to treat a male child molester “humanely” while ignoring the welfare of defenseless young boys.

Any who believe that, well, just go ahead and believe it.

56 posted on 07/13/2012 8:43:11 PM PDT by Will88
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To: bill1952

Dude, he let Sandusky HAVE SEX WITH CHILDREN!!!


57 posted on 07/13/2012 8:46:27 PM PDT by dfwgator (FUJR (not you, Jim))
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To: workerbee

I wish commenters would restrict the replies they post to others comments to things the first commenter actually said. You rally haven’t commented on much of anything I’ve actually said. My final comment in this thread is this and #56.

If you find something to agree with in that sweeping generalization about the nature of men from Whitlock, then that’s just you.

I think it is some of the most ridiculous nonsense I’ve ever read. He’s taken off on this bizarre male sex tangent when the motivating factors most every commentator has honed in own is their desire to protect their and PSU football’s exalted position and the esteem in which it was held, not some bizarre theory about male sexuality as it relates to pedophiles.


58 posted on 07/13/2012 8:53:15 PM PDT by Will88
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To: Will88
This article is nothing but a springboard for discussion of what happened, and what might have prevented it. I've asked a couple of times about the whys and what-nows, as it relates to the facts at Penn St. but you ignore those facts and prefer to assign motives where there are none, or seem to want to play amateur shrink on what I think about men in general. *shrug* Okay.

It's midnight here, I'm going to bed.

59 posted on 07/13/2012 9:06:38 PM PDT by workerbee (June 28, 2012 -- 9/11 From Within)
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To: BikerJoe
True, that. I haven't been following this story in detail I just read the thing about Spanier.... maybe you andother posters were aware of that.

The maggotty rottenness of the sexual culture of Penn State started, as you say, from the top.

Penn State Falls Into a Pit (Link) Horrible and revealing.

60 posted on 07/14/2012 4:46:17 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("You can observe a lot just by watchin'." - Yogi Berra)
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