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Occupy Black Bloc Member James E. Holmes Shoots Up Aurora Co Movie Theater
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Posted on 07/21/2012 8:36:33 AM PDT by securityMama

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To: A'elian' nation
Do you go to midnight Rocky Horror showings too?

No; just to movies that I actually want to see.

61 posted on 07/21/2012 10:38:22 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie
This Holmes guy needs to find a good team of shyster lawyers and sue Brian Williams, the network and anything and everything that moves that had anything to do with smearing his name.

He needs to go for the jugular and not let go.

If there is a settlement, give it to the lawyers, just to let the liberal news know that they need to be responsible.

62 posted on 07/21/2012 10:41:33 AM PDT by Parmy
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To: Strategerist

I agree, there is nothing to be gained from believing unsubtantiated rumours. IOW tu quoque does not make a right.

I am curious though. If they do blow up his apartment then the mysteries that might be found on his computer iphone, ipad etc might be destroyed. He is oddly missing from the internet. A very strange thing indeed.

I am also curious as to why the only people who seem to be coming and going at this family home are friends or so it has been reported. One would think that a visit(if not a large and windbreakered presence) from the FBI would be in order but to my knowledge they have not been there. Or have they? I don’t know. The family home could have clues dontcha think?

This is an unusual guy in a group of very strange guys. Most of them have a beef, he does too. What I wonder is it? He worked at McDonald-which one, why no interview with boss or co-workers? No indication of how he performed and how he got on with co-workers. They might not be sophisticated enough to simply say, he was quiet but a bit strange.

The fill in the blanks part of his story we are told is full of blanks. Where did he learn to make his sophisticated booby trap, how to shoot, what body protection to wear, how to properly get and use tear gas. If not on line, then the credit card will tell us which “bookstore” he bought the books from (yeah right)

That the guns were purchased legally, got out pretty quickly along with the obligatory, no terrorist ties. OK. The fast and furious guns were purchased legally too, just say’n, and the speed of the “no terrorism here folks, move on” usually indicates a proportional relationship to actual terrorism. It might even be a physical law, the speed of the denial is indicative of the truth of the proposition.

In contrast to these other mass murder cases, he seems uniquely “lone” among lone wolves, not that that cannot be true, but it does defy the old Occam’s Razor law.

This entire story has a surface patina of unfolding along previously established lines, (a few words from the neighbours, the University prez,) with a few things left out. But it feels very odd. I am not speculating as to why just noting, it feels odder than usual.


63 posted on 07/21/2012 10:44:45 AM PDT by Kay Syrah
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To: netmilsmom

I surrender. There are a few of you out there.

Maybe you could start midnight tea party rallies.


64 posted on 07/21/2012 10:45:16 AM PDT by A'elian' nation (Political correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred. Jacques Barzun)
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To: securityMama
Interesting. Wonder how this will develop in the media?

No, not really.

65 posted on 07/21/2012 10:49:11 AM PDT by Clinging Bitterly (We need to limit political office holders to two terms. One in office, and one in prison.)
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Click.

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66 posted on 07/21/2012 11:05:02 AM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93destr)
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To: securityMama

Most of what is on the Internet about this nut is fake. While it does look like his pic at an OWS rally, that’s still pretty meaningless, as we all know OWS attracted mostly nuts. That is, the nuts made OWS rather than OWS making the nuts.

Most likely this nut simply became afflicted with adult-onset schizophrenia, most likely a paranoid mixed type. He’s at the age of most probable development. No doubt, we’re going hear from his family and former friends that he had been acting increasingly strange during the preceding months.

If this country was serious about stopping these kinds of tragedies, it would mount a sustained national campaign to educate our country about the signs and symptoms of this disease and how to go about getting help for the afflicted individuals.

But that’s not going to happen. For a couple of reasons. First, it’s beneficial to the Communists that run our country for these kinds of massacres to continue, since they can be used to influence a mentally weak public into willingly giving up their 2nd amendment rights.

And second, the dysfunction wrought by Communist to our country has left us in a situation where we can no longer mount an effective response to a public health problem unless the problem specifically impacts homosexuals or other favored minority groups.


67 posted on 07/21/2012 11:24:02 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: dinoparty
The one-way war of disinformation needs to become a two-way war.

Lenin and Alinsky would embrace your idea but I couldn't disagree more.

It is a given that the left lies and distorts constantly. On the other hand, I frequently receive emails from other conservative friends that are perpetually circulated through email and also contain self-serving untruths. When I receive these I also make it a point to let them know they are perpetuating BS.

Truth and honesty are sacred........we abandon them at our peril.

68 posted on 07/21/2012 11:34:54 AM PDT by cerberus
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To: skeeter
Some times disinformation does have a positive outcome. Paul Robeson was, no doubting this, a so-called ‘secret communist’. One who had a party card that was kept locked in a safe in CPSU HQ at Union Sqaure. He claimed he was a ‘liberal’ and an ‘activist’. In reality he was a very valuable communist asset both because of his celebrity status and because as a celebrity he traveled a great deal which made him a very useful courier and message disseminator to the party cadres. Robeson was on the road when a wire service story whose origins could never be traced flashed across the wires stating Robeson had made a public statement that black Americans should have no allegiance to the racist USA but support the USSR and that Stalin was the true leader of American Negroes. Robeson tried to put out the resulting firestorm but to no avail. His reputation was fatally damaged and his stature declined propitiously. In a year or so he moved to Moscow where he spent the rest of his life. The statement was a fake ‘but accurate’ rendering of Robeson's views. It was probably planted by the FBI. It destroyed an important communist asset. Job well done.
69 posted on 07/21/2012 11:52:38 AM PDT by robowombat
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To: Lazamataz

You go Laz, have at it. =)


70 posted on 07/21/2012 12:04:43 PM PDT by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

That’s enough for me ~ undoubtedly Stephenopoulous knew something about this too ~ quite early ~ like to see him prove he didn’t know before the perp pulled the trigger.


71 posted on 07/21/2012 12:06:22 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Strategerist
Here's what's wrong with Conservatives in general, they too easily forget that to the leftwingtards and their running dog lackeys it's its the seriousness of the charges not the nature of the evidence.

To a degree uncomfortable for some (but not for others) we must adopt their language to get across to them the idea that even their heroes, even themselves, can end up in prison because of this stuff.

Frankly, I"d like to see Stephenopoulous in jail although I notice there are others who want his lesser known co-perpetrator to simply be charged with a civil suit.

72 posted on 07/21/2012 12:13:49 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: skeeter

Yes, and I would like to add that we should search for facts and the freedom to analyze, discuss and form hypotheses. This is what we do on FR. This post is part of the search. There’s a lot of smart people on FR.


73 posted on 07/21/2012 12:26:55 PM PDT by virgil
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

>Much is yet to be revealed about this supposed “Lone Wolf” who is not so “Lone” as he appears.<

Of course. One does not obtain sophisticated explosives training in a vacuum.


74 posted on 07/21/2012 12:43:32 PM PDT by Darnright ("I don't trust liberals, I trust conservatives." - Lucius Annaeus Seneca)
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To: A'elian' nation

>>Maybe you could start midnight tea party rallies.<<

I think it’s that the Tea Party is all inclusive.
I know college students, seniors, families with 10 kids, Priests and Ministers who attended rallies with us.

We aren’t what the MSM want us to be. We are diverse.

We are conservative, we are young, we are old and most of all, we are a good group.


75 posted on 07/21/2012 12:47:10 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Romney scares me. Obama is the freaking nightmare that is so bad you are afraid to go back to sleep)
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To: Darnright

>>Of course. One does not obtain sophisticated explosives training in a vacuum.<<

I hate to say it but the internet and a brilliant (but demented) young man could easily do this alone.

To use a movie line, “Tony Stark did it in a cave, with a box of scraps.”

I believe he could find a way to do this.


76 posted on 07/21/2012 12:50:38 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Romney scares me. Obama is the freaking nightmare that is so bad you are afraid to go back to sleep)
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To: netmilsmom

>I hate to say it but the internet and a brilliant (but demented) young man could easily do this alone.<

Possibly. But, given Occam’s Razor, he could very well have been groomed by someone, somewhere.

I think you have a very good point, that said.


77 posted on 07/21/2012 1:43:24 PM PDT by Darnright ("I don't trust liberals, I trust conservatives." - Lucius Annaeus Seneca)
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To: MinuteGal; Lazamataz; Admin Moderator; Jim Robinson
Virtually every sentence in the opening post is unverified and inflammatory.

This thread should be zotted immediately. It does not reflect well on FR and plays directly into liberal and leftist hands.

I agree. Yesterday was even worse here.

While everyone was justifiably furious with Brian Ross, we were doing the same damn thing to Moslems, OWS, etc. that he did to the Tea Party and others are doing to the NRA. That makes us worse than those we complain about - we're supposed to know better. We're supposed to be better.

We don't need to be like them to engage them. We don't need to adopt the low tactics of our adversaries. We shouldn't become liars and kooks in order to engage liars and kooks.

78 posted on 07/21/2012 2:24:29 PM PDT by AAABEST (Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
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To: Erik Latranyi; All
OWS posted the information themselves, on their website.

No, read the page. "This content is user submitted and is not an official statement." It is more crap from that stupid "PI" Bill Warner who is trying to get free publicity. That's his phone number on the youtube video.

Just like FR, you can sometimes get garbage posted, but people figure it out and pull it down. They obviously tracked this down and all of it points back to Warner who speculated that Holmes might be OWS because he wore dark clothes and a mask. Then people like you turn it into a "fact." That's not right. That's the way the Marxists do things.

79 posted on 07/21/2012 2:27:57 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: All

This article is so horribly written it can’t be taken seriously.


80 posted on 07/21/2012 2:31:32 PM PDT by InHisService (Jesus is coming back. Are you ready?)
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