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Posted on 08/10/2012 8:56:53 PM PDT by goodn'mad

But it looks like that is exactly what Romney is trying to do.


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I was angry at Romney during the primary when he used slash and burn tactics against the more conservative candidates. But I thought, "At least he is a fighter. He'll take it to Obama." Now I'm not so sure. I cannot understand why he would follow Dole's and McCain's example and do what it takes to win the nomination and then lock his gonads away in a lock-box when he has won it. Is this guy trying to win the nomination only to take a fall during the general election? When will we ever get a candidate who will get into the gutter with cheats and liars to gouge out THEIR eyeballs?
1 posted on 08/10/2012 8:56:58 PM PDT by goodn'mad
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To: goodn'mad

romney is a rino. He is the father of socialist medicine. He is a checkered pants country club Rino . Yes he is better than obama but we must teach these Rockefeller republicrats that they are finished and to get out of our party ,so Ryan or no Ryan I’m fishing.


2 posted on 08/10/2012 9:03:13 PM PDT by marygonzo
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To: marygonzo; goodn'mad

Chuck Todd live on MSNBC now reporting - sources indicate Romney will announce Rep. Paul Ryan as VP pick at 9am”


3 posted on 08/10/2012 9:07:36 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: marygonzo

How can we do it though? The Tea Party is picking up momentum I think. I just pray it won’t be to late.


4 posted on 08/10/2012 9:08:27 PM PDT by goodn'mad
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To: marygonzo

How can we do it though? The Tea Party is picking up momentum I think. I just pray it won’t be to late.


5 posted on 08/10/2012 9:08:58 PM PDT by goodn'mad
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To: goodn'mad

6 posted on 08/10/2012 9:12:25 PM PDT by real saxophonist (Proud to have been beat up and shot by the late Paul Gomez. RIP, 'Gnomez'.)
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To: goodn'mad
So what do we care if he is trying to lose?

He wins with our vote or not.

Its not about him.

It's about telling obama to kiss our collective behinds.

I'll vote Romney for that alone - regardless of what he does.

Get real people! We don't want Romney, but we don't want obama more.

Geez!

Or just stay home and feel good about your friggin’ conscience..

Whatever, but it's not about Romney - He knows it, we know it, he knows we know it - who the frig cares?

Throw the kenyan out!

7 posted on 08/10/2012 9:25:59 PM PDT by KittenClaws
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To: goodn'mad
Romney is McCain 2012 - it's his JOB to lose!
8 posted on 08/10/2012 9:30:30 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: goodn'mad

He likes the Dewey strategy...


9 posted on 08/10/2012 9:39:57 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ("I'm comfortable with a Romney win." - Pres. Jimmy Carter)
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To: goodn'mad

Mclame all over again.


10 posted on 08/10/2012 9:44:21 PM PDT by doc1019 (Romney will NEVER get my vote.)
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To: doc1019

Why don’t all of you wimps sign on with Obie ? He’s tried to “kill Romney” early before Mitt can spend any money and has barely made a dent.

Go call your mommy


11 posted on 08/10/2012 10:00:31 PM PDT by chiller (GO TEA, especially in the Senate and WE will lead.)
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To: KittenClaws

The problem is that Romney will essentially be as incompetent and socialist as Obama, except now he’ll have an (R) by his name as he fails. Thus we will have at least 4 years of mediocre Romney, a collapse of the economy, possibly a world war, and Mittens has guys like Kagan on his team, whose book is read by the Obama administration and recommended by it, as it (the book) foresees a world of “Muslim Democracy” that we should welcome and encourage. (Kagan actually rebuked Glenn Beck for predicting the arab spring like in Egypt would lead to radical islamist governments.) He has other guys on his team who are Keynesians, typical RINOs and goobers who hate conservatives and even actively worked to destroy them (Sarah Palin being one of their attempted victims). And then add in the fact that Mittens doesn’t even have an actual economic plan, but thinks “repealing and REPLACING” ObamaCare with RomneyCare is going to change anything, even though we have 16 trillion in debt due to entitlements he won’t even touch.

Let’s face it. It’s all a game. None of these people have any balls, and they are committed progressives but just won’t admit it. Sure, they’ll play the game come election time, but they’ll screw us the way they always have when it comes to crunch time. And so the great economic collapse will happen under Romney, and the Dems will take over again after Mittens. And to top it off, Mittens will probably happily sign a “comprehensive immigration reform” bill before he leaves office, permanently Europeanizing the United States into a country where we have far left commies and a little less left socialists all utterly committed to the welfare state. Meanwhile, people like Palin or Paul Ryan will be gimmicks and props in the hands of the GOPe to shake at us when we get out of line, only to insure their proposed reforms are stripped of anything important and/or cannot pass. Just like how the House voted to repeal ObamaCare, knowing it wouldn’t pass, but then quietly didn’t vote to defund it.


12 posted on 08/10/2012 10:08:37 PM PDT by RaisingCain
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To: chiller

Just because I see both Obama and Romney in the same socialist light doesn’t make me a wimp, just makes me discerning.


13 posted on 08/10/2012 10:12:25 PM PDT by doc1019 (Romney will NEVER get my vote.)
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To: goodn'mad; marygonzo

Don’t listen to marygonzo with her oh lets all just stay home. She is looking like a troll posting on every thread stating she is staying home and that others should do the same.

Looks like a premeditated plant to rouse the base. IGNORE


14 posted on 08/10/2012 10:13:48 PM PDT by jcsjcm (This country was built on exceptionalism and individualism. In God we Trust - Laus Deo)
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To: goodn'mad
Romney is restrained from advertising greatly due to the fact that he is still technically only the PRESUMED candidate. He can not spend much money and is sitting on a war chest significantly larger than Obama has. He is also just starting to generate big dollar value donations and should continue to outpace Obama by 25% or more from now on.

He is set to name a V.P. If it is Ryan, as has been reported, he brings a vast amount of Right Wing Tea party Conservatives into line, particularly when it comes to economics and budget philosophy. That takes care of a vast majority of the base and energizes the Party.

I think he is timing his attacks very well. If he can dominate the news and avoid too much negative about Ryan he will slide into and out of the convention in good shape.

It is Romney's to lose. Obama has already lost because his policies have failed and he offers nothing new. If Romney looks like a viable president and comes off as competent, He will win.

He only needs enough votes to get 50% + 1 and 270 electoral votes.

15 posted on 08/10/2012 10:18:26 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: goodn'mad

Hope you feel better now.

Romney is the only alternative to a non-natural born Marxist. If you can’t make that work for you, ok I guess.

McCain isn’t on the ballot, neither is Dole. Anybody bu Obama has always been #1 for me.


16 posted on 08/10/2012 10:21:09 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: goodn'mad
Don't fire till you see the whites of their eyes.

Keep your powder dry.

The time to strike hasn't come yet.

Patience, patience, patience.


We are ALL sick to the teeth of 0m0slem. Wait till he's locked in and not replaceable. Then watch the destruction.

17 posted on 08/10/2012 10:30:34 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: RaisingCain
Romney may be a RINO, he may be a socialist, what he isn't is incompetent.

Say what you want, but facts are facts, Romney is a man of great accomplishments in business. He did many great things in business and is a very pragmatic business person.

We should all have been so lucky to have invested in the ground floor of Bain. A $1,000 investment in Bain at its’ inception would be worth over $20,000,000 today. Look it up. He is that successful in business. If he is 10% as successful in the Presidency, he could possibly save the country. It absolutely needs saving! Since inception it has invested in or acquired hundreds of companies including AMC Entertainment, Aspen Education Group, Brookstone, Burger King, Burlington Coat Factory, Clear Channel Communications, Domino's Pizza, DoubleClick, Dunkin' Donuts, D&M Holdings, Guitar Center, Hospital Corporation of America (HCA), Sealy, The Sports Authority, Staples, Toys "R" Us, Warner Music Group and The Weather Channel. Pretty astounding winners list!.

He is certainly not my first choice, but he is certainly not Obama either. Obama hasn't run anything but his mouth in his whole life. You can not legitimately compare Romney and Obama and come to believe that they are the same. They just aren't!

18 posted on 08/10/2012 10:32:18 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Jim from C-Town

“Say what you want, but facts are facts, Romney is a man of great accomplishments in business. He did many great things in business and is a very pragmatic business person.”


That may be why he ran Massachusetts into the ground. Well, to be fair, it is perpetually running into the ground because of progressives like Mitt. It was third from the bottom in terms of business growth, and Mittens endorsed and created stuff like RomneyCare or cap and trade, which shows that whatever “success” he had in business didn’t translate to actual experience and knowledge.


19 posted on 08/10/2012 10:40:12 PM PDT by RaisingCain
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To: real saxophonist
Right now we stop bitching.

Right now we quit waiting for someone to be the end all be all of conservative politics.

We either let the kenyan take our country or let the rino try and take it.

We need to get over our impotence.

We bitch about the rinos placed before us like we have no choice because of friggin Iowa or whatever State it is that chooses our candidate.

Our forefathers asked Washington to be King - he refused, but became our first president.

Because we are already screwed (you know it, I know it). We need to quit being a bunch of babies and friggin’ ASK someone to be our leader.

So, this election, we are screwed, Romney-Bad, Obama-Worse than bad.

Our Country is going to hell in a hand basket that we have helped design. We have believed that our morals and righteousness would prevail. Can't everyone see the wrongness that is going on?

We are giving too much credit to the prevailing MeMe.

If we want to win WE must choose the contender, support him/her, build them up within the next four years.

We must all AGREE on a person. Quit quibbling about social issues and put the country into consideration.

Put aside the everything that is not about country and support a candidate - a candidate of our choosing.

OK, in wildest imaginings:

WTP (We The People) Rush, we'd like you to be president because you think as we do.

Rush: No way, I'm just a talk show host.

WTP: But Rush, you got it together.

Rush: Well, I'm flattered, but that does not make me presidential material.

WTP: OK. Who do you suggest then?

Rush: No one! What's wrong with you? Do it yourselves!

So we do. Because Rush was never viable in the first place, that was just an example.

My first nomination? Thomas Sowell.

Who would be your pick, and when we agree, shouldn't we ask?

20 posted on 08/10/2012 10:58:12 PM PDT by KittenClaws
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To: RaisingCain
I did not speak of Massachusetts, only his experience as a businessman. As for his governorship, he left the state in better financial situation than he found it, yet he erred far too often by acquiescing to the Leftist Dems that infest that state.

He is no conservative, but Ryan certainly is and they are both knowledgeable about budgeting and business.

Obama and Romney are NOT the same. Romney has real accomplishments and has made something from nothing and employed hundreds of thousands of people along the way. Obama has flapped his blue lips and killed millions of jobs in the process with his incompetence.

Regardless of Romney's Leftist proclivities, which I acknowledge, the ONLY REAL issue in this election is the economy. Without a strong economic recovery and a REAL change to the structural deficit of the budgetary process, We are doomed to fall into a financial Armageddon and it will be impossible to dig our way out and will happen much much sooner than anyone expects. Romney is our only hope, and with Ryan as VP we just MAY stand a chance.

21 posted on 08/10/2012 11:13:07 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: RaisingCain
We agree that it is all a game.

Why should’nt we play?

So Romney is a Rook or a Knight, maybe even a Pawn.

But, politicians are not the only players, if WE say so,

22 posted on 08/10/2012 11:14:13 PM PDT by KittenClaws
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To: RaisingCain
We agree that it is all a game.

Why should’nt we play?

So Romney is a Rook or a Knight, maybe even a Pawn.

But, politicians are not the only players, if WE say so,

23 posted on 08/10/2012 11:14:40 PM PDT by KittenClaws
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To: rawcatslyentist

Thanks...I needed that. Maybe this is his strategy. I sure hope so. Muhammed Ali picked up a good strategy as he grew older and lost his speed i.e. he let his opponent wear himself out through a flurry of punches. Ali merely leaned against the ropes and deflected the punches until his opponent was worn down and then delivered the KO. It’s possible, I guess.


24 posted on 08/10/2012 11:17:36 PM PDT by goodn'mad
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To: Jim from C-Town

“I did not speak of Massachusetts, only his experience as a businessman. As for his governorship, he left the state in better financial situation than he found it, yet he erred far too often by acquiescing to the Leftist Dems that infest that state.”


He did not “acquiesce” to the Dems. That is pure RINO-crap spin. He led the charge. The proof is that he even had his RomneyCare bill enshrined in official portraits of himself because he was so proud of it. He still defends his actions today. He enthusiastically embraced leftist policies to outleft the left in that state. As for leaving it in a better “financial “ state. I highly doubt that, unless transferring large portions of their healthcare spending to the federal government helped achieve that.

“Obama and Romney are NOT the same. Romney has real accomplishments and has made something from nothing and employed hundreds of thousands of people along the way. Obama has flapped his blue lips and killed millions of jobs in the process with his incompetence.”


Romney’s real “accomplishments” consists of RomneyCare, apparently designed by the same socialist that helped design ObamaCare. Seeing as how that is the truth, I suspect his “success” at Bain could have been accomplished by any warm body. It’s funny that he can’t even use his governorship in Mass. as an “accomplishment,” even though it actually matters far more than anything else.


25 posted on 08/10/2012 11:25:15 PM PDT by RaisingCain
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To: KittenClaws

My 1st choice for VP is definately Allen West. A retired military man, black, says it like it is....we could do a lot worse. I don’t think Obama would know how to handle him. But I understand that the VP pick is Paul Ryan. I like him to.


26 posted on 08/10/2012 11:36:36 PM PDT by goodn'mad
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To: bigbob

Thanks for your feedback, bigbob. I’m a civilian (also retired military man) living and working overseas. I was home during the summer. I drove several hundred miles to get my absentee ballot squared away. I’m a “broken glass” Republican, especially this election. Obama and his minions has scared the crap out of me and I’ll vote for anybody who runs against him. Romney wasn’t my 1st choice but I’ll vote for him to get rid of Obama. I think (and hope) that there are millions like me who will crawl over 10 miles of broken glass to get rid of this bunch. The nation’s existance is at stake.


27 posted on 08/10/2012 11:42:55 PM PDT by goodn'mad
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To: goodn'mad
No sense knocking bammy out now.

They'll just sweep in her thighness of cankels, and Mitty will lose.

28 posted on 08/10/2012 11:43:41 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: RaisingCain
That may be why he ran Massachusetts into the ground. Well, to be fair, it is perpetually running into the ground because of progressives like Mitt. It was third from the bottom in terms of business growth,

Well now, quoting stats put forth by David Axelrod are we? I'm only giving this a one post reply.

Did you know the 2005 unemployment rate in MA was 4.8%? 4% is essentially full employment. How much "business growth" can you have when the State is fully employed? Does that factor into your Axelrod "factoid" on MA's "business growth"?

Reported by PolitiFact:

"According to a spokesman, the Romney campaign calculated the yearly percentage increase or decrease in job growth for each of Romney’s four years in office. So from December 2002 to December 2003, the job growth in Massachusetts was 51st highest nationally out of 50 states plus the District of Columbia -- in other words, dead last. The following year, it was 46th, then 40th, then in Romney’s final year in office -- December 2005 to December 2006 -- it was 30th in the nation.

Looking at the statistics in this way advances the Romney camp’s argument that, while Massachusetts’ overall job growth under Romney was among the lowest of any state, the trendline over time puts his tenure in a more favorable light. A state that was a doormat in job growth at the beginning of his tenure rose into the broad middle of the rankings by the end of it.

We did our own math and found the exact same results as the Romney camp. So we agree that the numbers back up Fehrnstrom’s general argument that job growth rates in the state improved over the course of Romney’s governorship relative to other states."

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/jun/05/eric-fehrnstrom/mitt-romney-campaign-says-job-growth-massachusetts/

29 posted on 08/10/2012 11:43:58 PM PDT by ThirstyMan
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To: ThirstyMan

“Well now, quoting stats put forth by David Axelrod are we? I’m only giving this a one post reply.

Did you know the 2005 unemployment rate in MA was 4.8%? 4% is essentially full employment. How much “business growth” can you have when the State is fully employed? Does that factor into your Axelrod “factoid” on MA’s “business growth”?

Reported by PolitiFact:

“According to a spokesman, the Romney campaign calculated the yearly percentage increase or decrease in job growth for each of Romney’s four years in office. So from December 2002 to December 2003, the job growth in Massachusetts was 51st highest nationally out of 50 states plus the District of Columbia — in other words, dead last. The following year, it was 46th, then 40th, then in Romney’s final year in office — December 2005 to December 2006 — it was 30th in the nation.

Looking at the statistics in this way advances the Romney camp’s argument that, while Massachusetts’ overall job growth under Romney was among the lowest of any state, the trendline over time puts his tenure in a more favorable light. A state that was a doormat in job growth at the beginning of his tenure rose into the broad middle of the rankings by the end of it.”


Apparently the vast majority of job losses were in manufacturing, a little more than 11 percent, whereas the healthcare services and “business professionals” increased the most, thus accounting for your drop. Which is not surprising, considering RomneyCare. The same thing will probably happen under ObamaCare once it kicks in. Real jobs will be lost, while government jobs and jobs associated with entitlements will boom.

http://news.yahoo.com/mixed-job-picture-romney-mass-governor-131712965.html

Considering Mass. was one of the highest taxed states in the union, and was a victim to an unethical and statist takeover of their healthcare system as well as other gimmicks and fees, it is not surprising that Romney fled the state. I wouldn’t want to live in that hell hole either.


30 posted on 08/11/2012 12:06:40 AM PDT by RaisingCain
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To: goodn'mad
First of all, thanks for your service to our Country.

As for the rest of your Post, you are not alone FRiend.
The glass shards are a little sharper with Romney as the Nominee, but the enemy here isn't the Republican. Romney might be a fair weather friend to Conservatives, but we at least will have some impact on his decisions with the help of a Republican House AND Senate. There will be no consideration of our positions with Obama simply because he HATES everything we as Conservatives stand for. He does not just disagree with us, he HATES us, and I have never thought a sitting President, Democrat or Republican was capable of HATING a plurality of the Citizens of this great land. Obama has proven that for the last four years and he will only get worse when given an unlimited mantle of power that he will unleash with the Mandate his Reelection will promote, real or imagined. To a Liberal Progressive a One Percent win is considered a Mandate, as long as they are the ones who win the Election.

31 posted on 08/11/2012 12:20:25 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Republicans Hope people are Smart, but Democrats Know people are Stupid.)
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To: goodn'mad
When will we ever get a candidate who will get into the gutter with cheats and liars to gouge out THEIR eyeballs?

Unfortunately, probably not in our lifetime.

32 posted on 08/11/2012 1:00:22 AM PDT by Mark17 (California, where English is a foreign language)
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To: goodn'mad
Until he's the official nominee, he's greatly limited in what he can do particularly with regard to campaign spending.

When he's the nominee, officially, see what happens.

33 posted on 08/11/2012 1:44:31 AM PDT by newzjunkey
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To: newzjunkey

Mr. RomneyCARE always loses.

THAT is why he was carefully selected ... by the DNC.


34 posted on 08/11/2012 2:06:52 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: goodn'mad
Our powder stays dry until we see the whites of their eyes. We must overcome the Obama spin made for those who can be instigated to hate Romney. If not we will get two more yeas of Obama. America will not last for four more years under King Obama.
35 posted on 08/11/2012 2:40:54 AM PDT by Armaggedon
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To: Diogenesis

Funny, I thought the GOP primary process did that.

Listen, you winers need to think why your guy/gal didn’t get the nomination. Was it the “RINO’s” colluding together to screw over your candidate, or were there fundamental flaws with each of your candidates that lessened their appeal?

Seems like Reagan didn’t have a problem bringing in the moderates to his cause. Why did your guy fail?

You can biatch and moan about how the GOP-e conspired against you personally, but the fact remains that your candidate did not generate the votes. That’s how it works.

As a side question: it has been pointed out by some here that they consider themselves conservatives and not Republican (I personally consider myself both). If that’s the case, why do you even care who we nominate as our party’s candidate?

I’m very excited about the prospect of Ryan being on the ticket. He would have been my choice for the top of the ballot, but here we are.


36 posted on 08/11/2012 4:54:00 AM PDT by MDspinboyredux
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To: doc1019

First things first we must eradicate the cancer and then we must treat the patient. Romney will not only have to deal with the rats he will have to deal with us


37 posted on 08/11/2012 5:11:31 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (bb)
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To: MDspinboyredux

“You can biatch and moan about how the GOP-e conspired against you personally, but the fact remains that your candidate did not generate the votes. That’s how it works.”

That IS how it works. It’s called a primary. The candidates went head to head, toe to toe. The one with the most votes eventually won. Two of my preferred candidates did not generate sufficient votes. Does that mean I hope Obama wins this Fall? Hardly

Are these people nuts? According to FR’s 2012 definition of conservative, there aren’t ANY!! not one!!

A quote from the Gipper, he used to be considered a conservative until 2012.

“When I began entering into the give and take of legislative bargaining in Sacramento, a lot of the most radical conservatives who had supported me during the election didn’t like it.

“Compromise” was a dirty word to them and they wouldn’t face the fact that we couldn’t get all of what we wanted today. They wanted all or nothing and they wanted it all at once. If you don’t get it all, some said, don’t take anything.

I’d learned while negotiating union contracts that you seldom got everything you asked for. And I agreed with FDR, who said in 1933: ‘I have no expectations of making a hit every time I come to bat. What I seek is the highest possible batting average.’

If you got seventy-five or eighty percent of what you were asking for, I say, you take it and fight for the rest later, and that’s what I told these radical conservatives who never got used to it”.

Ronald Reagan on politics and compromise from his autobiography


38 posted on 08/11/2012 10:25:21 AM PDT by ThirstyMan
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