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Where Is the Tastee Freez From John Mellencamp’s ‘Jack and Diane’?
The Vulture ^ | Rachael Maddux | 8/24/12

Posted on 08/26/2012 1:40:09 PM PDT by nickcarraway

This is the third entry in Vulture's occasional series: Pop Culture Mysteries. Read our previous pieces, about the Red Hot Chili Peppers song "Under the Bridge" and Toni Basil's "Mickey."

In 2008, ABC’s Good Morning America followed John Mellencamp around his hometown of Seymour, Indiana. Naturally, the story included a mention of the singer’s most famous song, “Jack and Diane,” which hit No. 1 in October 1982, when Mellencamp was still calling himself John Cougar. The GMA report specified the line, “Suckin’ on a chili dog outside the Tastee Freez,” going on to note that “the actual Tastee Freez is long gone,” before segueing into Mellencamp’s concerns about the corporatization of middle America and the destruction of family farms (which, in 1985, pushed him to co-found FarmAid).

As immortalized in the song, the Midwestern frozen-treat stop is a monument to good old-fashioned teenage boredom, wanton horniness, and greasy fast food consumed without any regard for calories or arterial disease. With Diane in his lap, Jackie makes a dubious offer to go “dribble off those Bobbie Brooks” — irresistible, apparently, despite his almost-certainly beefy-bean breath. In an attempt to immortalize yet another minor music landmark, Vulture set out to find exactly which Tastee Freez Mellencamp was singing about.

The Tastee Freez chain was founded in 1950 in Illinois. In the Vaseline-lensed sixties and seventies in which Mellencamp’s song is set, hundreds of franchises were scattered across America’s heartland. It's widely suggested that Mellencamp wrote the song after watching Warren Beatty and Natalie Wood's fraught young love affair in Splendor in the Grass; some fans have also floated the idea that he was inspired by one of his own high-school relationships back in Seymour. The song's heavy with a certain restless, rust-belt ennui, so that's not hard to believe. Such a reading also helps narrow the scope of potential locations.

A search on the official Tastee Freez website turns up no Seymour location. In fact, there’s not a single franchise left in the entire state of Indiana — not even a nearby outpost of corporate siblings Weinerschnitzel or the Original Hamburger Stand, some of which carry a limited Tastee Freez menu. (Yep, even Tastee Freez fell victim to the corporatization of Middle America — the chain was bought by the Galardi Group, a California-based franchiser, in 2007.)

Perhaps, I thought, it might be fruitful to put the mystery to some Mellencamp fans. His hardcore partisans call themselves “Mellenheads,” and I e-mailed one. Mike Rainey boasts that he’s “been to over twenty concerts, has over 200 CDs, interviews, DVDs loaded with TV appearances, and countless news clippings.” But he too is stumped about the Tastee Freez. “I don't have anything where John mentions the Tastee Freez specifically, or his inspiration for it — I'm pretty sure it's just made up,” Rainey writes. He is able to tell me, though, that Mellencamp originally intended Jack and Diane to be an interracial couple, but that he “abandoned that idea because he thought it was a little much for the early eighties,” and that he almost trashed the song entirely because it was “a pop song and too light-hearted for the serious songwriter he was striving to be.” In the end, as these things often go, it became his biggest hit. Jana Plump says she’s not a Mellenhead, exactly. She’s “just another 60-year-old life-long resident of Seymour.” In an e-mail, she spells out the array of snack bars that graced the town in the seventies and eighties. “There was the Dairy Queen, the Dairy Depot, the Dairy Barn, the Dairy Breeze and Kovener's Korner,” she writes.

It’s the latter establishment that seems closest to the songwriter’s heart. “The Kovener's Korner is located about two blocks from Mellencamp’s boyhood home on 5th Street,” writes Plump. “[There was] no actual Tastee Freez that I recall, but ‘someone’ still enjoys a visit to Kovener's Korner.” She attaches a recent snapshot of Mellencamp pausing outside the stand (located at 712 West 2nd Street) in jeans, a button-down, and sunglasses, digging into a large Styrofoam cup housing some kind of frozen concoction.

Attempts to contact Tastee Freez — or, rather, the Galardi Group — about any Seymour location, past or present, were unsuccessful. When we tried to reach Mellencamp himself for some insight, his reps demurred: “His inclination is always to leave the looking back to others.” But even if there was one single Tastee Freez that Mellenheads and other devotees could make some pilgrimage to and suck down a commemorative chili dog of their own, it would miss the point of the song. Mellencamp successfully shoehorning a clunker like “Kovernor’s Korner” into the lyrics might’ve been a heroic bit of pop songwriting, but some of the beauty would’ve been compromised. “Jack and Diane” are an everycouple; too many specifics would ruin the song’s effect. In the end, it’s not about Tastee Freez or two kids named Jack and Diane or Seymour, Indiana, at all. But ... the Galardi Group did send me some nice PDFs about becoming a franchise owner. If I opened one in Seymour, think Mellencamp would swing by?


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To: nickcarraway
I always hated John Cougar (ick) Mellencamp. And detested that stupid song, always. I thought it was a rip-off of Billy Joel's "Scenes from An Italian Restautant" - Brendy and Eddy. And didn't what's-his-name-Bruce pen a song about 2 American kids before that creepy Cougar?
21 posted on 08/26/2012 2:17:55 PM PDT by EnquiringMind
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To: rabidralph

There’s a Twin Kiss in Sykesville (or Eldersburg, depending on one’s preference).

;-)


22 posted on 08/26/2012 2:18:19 PM PDT by workerbee (June 28, 2012 -- 9/11 From Within)
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To: nickcarraway

OTOH, I can tell you where she is and all about “sweet sweet Connie.” Hint: she wasn’t so sweet at all. I know that’s shocking.


23 posted on 08/26/2012 2:19:38 PM PDT by Dysart (Id like to look it in the eye but there is no eye)
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To: Norm Lenhart
damn... that would be strange
24 posted on 08/26/2012 2:21:25 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: nickcarraway

I live at what be near ground zero for Tastee Freeze in Il. There seemed to be one in every town. Our local one is now a vet clinic.


25 posted on 08/26/2012 2:23:44 PM PDT by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
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To: Chode

It was. In 82 it was still out in the middle of nowhere. Today that area is concrete and pavement to the horizon.

I knew it was in the ‘general area’ of where we arer (as in a few miles) but it shocked the hell out of me to find out we were standing on the actual site of the place.


26 posted on 08/26/2012 2:23:57 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: nickcarraway

John’s a diehard Baraqqi.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWlVs4XeASM

When I contacted his people, they were unable to confirm if Mellenkamp’s tax preparer does the calculations without the “Bush tax cuts”.


27 posted on 08/26/2012 2:24:44 PM PDT by nascarnation (quit)
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To: Dysart
LOL. "Smoke on the Water," on the other hand, was based on a true story in a real place (a lakefront resort in Switzerland, I believe).
28 posted on 08/26/2012 2:25:20 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: nickcarraway

So are there also a lot of little pink houses in Indiana?


29 posted on 08/26/2012 2:27:32 PM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: Chode

I think so, unless it was one cone with chocolate and vanilla in the cone. I remember going there in the ‘70s and ‘80s and it was there as late as this century, but I moved out of the state and haven’t been down 301, past La Plata, in a long time.


30 posted on 08/26/2012 2:28:19 PM PDT by rabidralph (http://www.patriotcalendars.com/)
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To: Alberta's Child

Yes. To wit, the Lake Geneva shoreline. “Funky Claude was running in and out”...”some stupid with a flare gun.” Where are those two today? Let’s send the author, Rachael, to investigate.


31 posted on 08/26/2012 2:29:18 PM PDT by Dysart (Id like to look it in the eye but there is no eye)
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To: rabidralph
yeah... choco and vanilla side by side
32 posted on 08/26/2012 2:31:12 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Yo-Yo

There are actually very few if any pink houses in Seymour.


33 posted on 08/26/2012 2:31:33 PM PDT by rdl6989 (January 20, 2013 The end of an error.)
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To: workerbee

I guess it could have been a franchise, but it always seemed like a local operation. It always had great food: crinkle cut fries, burgers and chili dogs. Southern Maryland has some great roadside stands all over Rte. 5 (Branch Ave.), Rte. 210 (Indian Head Hwy.) and Rte. 301. I miss the area, in spite of its Freak State status, here.


34 posted on 08/26/2012 2:31:33 PM PDT by rabidralph (http://www.patriotcalendars.com/)
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To: Dysart

Did they really have a lot of fun on Venus or a ball on Mars?


35 posted on 08/26/2012 2:33:09 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek

Dunno, but John Lord just got a permanent residency as house organist for the Pearly gates Choir.

May he rest in Hammond/Marshall fueled peace.


36 posted on 08/26/2012 2:36:24 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: nickcarraway

Tasty Freez probably just sounded better than Dairy Queen. Someone has waaayyy too much time on their hands.


37 posted on 08/26/2012 2:38:05 PM PDT by Hugin ("Most times a man'll tell you his bad intentions, if you listen and let yourself hear."---Open Range)
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To: Dysart

That reminds me how they criticized Bryan Adams because he was only 11 in 1969. Like that matters.


38 posted on 08/26/2012 2:38:35 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Dysart
I didn’t realize every pop song was both literal and historically accurate. I hope next the author catch up with Deep Purple’s “woman from Tokyo.” Keen to see what she’s been up to besides tending to her garden and making tea.

Yeah, I always wondered when Jim Croce got casted in plaster and ended up in jail for "5 Short Minutes of Lovin"

39 posted on 08/26/2012 2:41:02 PM PDT by Dick Vomer (democrats are like flies, whatever they don't eat they sh#t on.)
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To: cripplecreek
Now, Cripplecreek, Mars ain't the kind of place to raise your kids.

Let's send Rachel to find out why...

40 posted on 08/26/2012 2:41:02 PM PDT by Dysart (Id like to look it in the eye but there is no eye)
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