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To: rockinqsranch
I worry about all this talk of a third party. I think we need to slowly infiltrate and take over, rather than split.

The Canadian Progressive Conservative party was split in two by the creation of the more right-wing "Reform Party" and ended up with 13 years of leftist Liberal rule. It was only when the current Prime Minister, Steven Harper, finally put them back together again that tipped the balance in their favor in 2006.

Those of you in favor of a third party, just exactly what percentage of the GOP do you imagine us taking in the beginning? Remember Ross Perot in the 1992 election? [Clinton (43%), Bush (38%), and Perot (19%)]. In 2016, how do you see the split....Dems/Romney/TeaParty? To create a third party against an incumbent GOP term would be madness, unless Romney totally screws it up. We will be up against pure hate if the savage spending cuts that are necessary are executed. Add in deficit reduction and entitlement trimming and the resulting riots and strikes and 2016 becomes a nightmare for even a "joint" GOP.

Personally, I'm not willing to give the Dems ANY more breathing space than they already have. As I said, I prefer a slow, but sure, takeover. Tea Party, now and forever! Congressmen and Senators....let's move 'em in!

24 posted on 08/30/2012 6:42:00 AM PDT by Scooter100 ("Now that the fog has lifted, I still can't find my pipe". --- S. Holmes)
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To: Scooter100

“....I think we need to slowly infiltrate and take over, rather than split.”

Exactly what I was advocating eight years ago.

RINO’s are IMO every bit the Leftist’s the Lefties are. They are a spinoff IMO, and they now control the GOP. Proven day before yesterday IMO.

Salvaging the GOP, the Republican Party is now beyond a possibility.

You are also advocating that which they did to gain what they have in the GOP. They are sitting, waiting for you, and yours to try to do the same thing. That is what they understand, and they are practiced at it. It’s why the power grab two days ago.

I’m afraid the third party is the only way to go for 2016. There is no way to advocate such a move for this election. That would be political suicide, therefore we must work with what we have, elect that which will get Obama, and the Democrats the “H” out of the reins of power, and as many a strong Conservative voice to represent our will in Congress as we can get.

Meanwhile we work on 2016, with a fresh start.


26 posted on 08/30/2012 6:55:05 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Scooter100

don’t think the GOP can be saved at this point. With the rules changes working from within is not going to be allowed. We do have to get Obama out of office this year. That being said some a substantial number of conservatives in the GOP like Demint, R. Paul, Palin, Ryan etc... are going to have to bolt all at once in a grand exodus and have a conservative party convention and plan on running candidates in 50 states for all levels of government and it won’t be easy but nothing worth having ever is.


36 posted on 08/30/2012 8:39:15 AM PDT by sarge83
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