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Nice change of subject.

The “best” would have done a better job - I agree. But, Obama could only find a forger among his closest circle of trust. That is why/how the crude forgery, came to existence. Obama could not trust “the best to keep his secret.”

I know some of the people you are talking about. They are sad about the whole thing.

You have your clue in return - don’t BS me.

Birth certificates are initiated by the board of health just about everywhere. They are not designed to be Bearer Bonds with a $200,000,000 valuation, so they are handled accordingly from the time the information is taken, until the data documents are signed, when they are filed with the office where they have to be filed, and right on through until the data on the forms is entered into a data system.

Until recent times the handling was next to casual ~ so whatever went on back in 1960 in Hawaii is as good a guess as any and we had numerous people come up with Hawaii BCs from that time, and from more recently.

Hawaii had a reputation for being super laid back with everything, so you'll need to take that up with them ~ not me.

You can believe you've found a crude forgery ~ it is as crude as a real forgery!

I'm sorry, I"ve reviewed millions of government forms with the statement "$10,000 fine or imprisonment" to believe that ordinary people under ordinary circumstances give a d....d. Unless you get a court case going no higher standards are required than "ordinary care".

America, as it turns out, is not a police state ~ not even in the maternity wards!