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To: annalex
You sound like a foreigner that would be happy for the original America to disappear, and for it to turn into a European like Catholic nation.

I have seen that from some tribal like Catholics, they see 1776 America as a Protestant curse of freedom and individuality, that needs to be fixed by being conquered and Europeanized, by Catholicism.

This has been the general agenda that immigration has brought to America since Catholic immigration started in the 1840s. Liberalism, unionism, and the usual problems of Europe. Today the hope for the left is that Catholic immigration will make the United States, a totally owned property of the Democrat party.

Here is the effect it has had on California.
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Look at how Catholic immigration affects the vote in California, and this was in an election where life issues dominated.
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27 posted on 09/24/2012 5:45:11 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12

Do you need any help comprehending my earlier posts regarding the value of statistics and projecting the future from them?

Protestant America did very well in the first 100 years. I would be happy if it returned to these practices; however the New Deal and the Great Society, two projects invented and put through by Protestants, foreclosed on the possibility. That is the chief failure of American Protestantism, again, as I explained before. There are others. For example, the failure to end slavery other than though the Civil War would not be possible under a Catholic leadership; the failure to end abortion today is rooted in Protestant inability to provide moral leadership.

To preserve individual freedom a nation must have an anthropological view that is correct. Protestant view is not correct: for example, it separates works from faith and has a legalistic view on the Holy Scripture; this is why we as a nation could not protect either our borders or our freedom. We therefore are looking at an historical shift away from the Calvinist value set that dominated the past two centuries and toward a more Catholic value set. You mentioned Europe, but I don’t think you did so other than as a cliche; the reality is that Europe, it seems to me, has lost its ability for renewal, and, as happened many times before, will have to rely on American leadership in these matters. If you need me to elaborate on this or on anything else you missed in my earlier posts, I’ll be happy to.


30 posted on 09/24/2012 6:47:30 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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