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Wrong note? School orchestra bans 6th-grader's purple violin
LA Times ^ | September 12, 2012 | John M. Glionna

Posted on 09/25/2012 11:58:09 AM PDT by Altariel

ll 11-year-old Camille Cruz wanted to do was play in her sixth-grade orchestra class at a Farmington, N.M., middle school using a violin her grandmother bought her.

This instrument is definitely different: Not only does it have sentimental value, it’s purple -- and that was where school officials drew the line. They insisted Camille had to play a violin the same color as everyone else’s, or she couldn’t play at all.

The student’s violin of a different color now has the town of Farmington (pop. 45,000) in a tizzy. After the local Daily Times newspaper published a story about Camille and her violin, online comments flooded the newspaper’s website. Folks are now discussing the story at coffee houses and over backyard fences.

“It’s been the talk of the town,” Daily Times reporter Ryan Boetel told the Los Angeles Times. “The reaction has been incredibly mixed. Half the people say an orchestra is a team that should come together as one. Others say that anything that prevents a child from joining a school orchestra is a bad thing.”

For Camille and her mother, Sherry Lopez, the brouhaha is all about standing up for who you are, even if the color of your violin is different from everyone else’s.

"This whole thing is like telling Axl Rose he has to use some guitar from Kmart," Lopez told The Times. "He doesn't want to use that. He wants to use his own guitar. And so does Camille. It’s a sense of pride. This violin is hers. She wants to use her own instrument. But the school was just so adamant. She didn’t match. She stood out. It was all about the color of the instrument and not her talents as a musician.”

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Music/Entertainment
KEYWORDS: conformity; music; publicschool; violin
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To: Tennessee Nana

I bet they only allow orange violins in Tennessee... ;-)


41 posted on 09/25/2012 1:25:37 PM PDT by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: Talisker
Oh, and this;

Mark my words: America will not be free until public education is utterly destroyed. These public teachers and administrators are MONSTERS. They are destroying the very essence of freedom in children. They are fantastically evil.

Overreact much?
42 posted on 09/25/2012 1:27:18 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: Pontiac
Discipline goes out the window when you start making exceptions for individuals.

If there's no rule, then no exception is being made.

43 posted on 09/25/2012 1:29:06 PM PDT by Sloth (If a tax break counts as "spending" then every time I don't rob a bank should be a "deposit.")
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To: Altariel

This violin is hers. She wants to use her own instrument. But the school was just so adamant. She didn’t match. She stood out.

&&&
Then let her use it when she is performing alone; when she is performing with the orchestra, she is to blend in. That is why the members dress similarly, idiot.

Yes, she stood out, and, most likely, what you and her idiot grandmother wanted more than anything was attention.


44 posted on 09/25/2012 1:37:16 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Pray for our republic.)
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To: Wyatt's Torch

There ya go...

;)


45 posted on 09/25/2012 1:40:22 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Emperor Palpatine
Orchestral discipline has nothing to do with collective conformity, except in the execution of the music.
Obviously you’re no serious musician.

First, I never claimed to be a serious musician.
Second, "collective conformity" for the sake of conformity actually has nothing to do with music's execution. The precise timing, synchronized between players, is exactly independent of the instrument's appearance; if it were not orchestra and any other mixed-instrument band/group would be impossible.

46 posted on 09/25/2012 1:43:13 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Altariel

What if someone wanted all the musicians to be the same color?


47 posted on 09/25/2012 1:44:26 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Hopey changey Low emission unicorns and a crap sandwich)
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To: SJSAMPLE
I spent sixteen years in The United States Army, wearing the uniform and following the rules. When I decided I wanted some individuality, I left.

And you miss his essential point:
Any TEAM that doesn't respect its members, is a PRISON.
Any RULES that don't respect its members, are TYRANNY.

I, too, was in the military and I have to say that the rules themselves weren't disrespectful of people, though there were those in leadership positions who would abuse the rules (by wither making selective exceptions, or more frequently additional rules). {Indeed, the constant non-application of rules regarding promotion was a big reason I left the national guard.}

48 posted on 09/25/2012 1:50:36 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Revolting cat!
I picked up a 19" "in the white" five-string viola. Doing the ground and varnish on my own... Badly, but I'm doing it. Fully graduated Top and Back plates, custom bridge, black walnut sound post... I even have a set of Obligato's I'll be putting on it.

Blue is my favorite color.

Let the girl play. Encouraging kids to practice is THE hardest part of teaching them. Destroy her enjoyment of it now, and she'll have that history color every musical experience for the rest of her life.

49 posted on 09/25/2012 1:50:36 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Altariel

If she was in a concert with the others, just who would be looking at her and the violin? The audience. Everyone looks at their own kid or G’kid, but in this situation all eyes would be on her. Not fair to the purpose of the music program.


50 posted on 09/25/2012 1:51:14 PM PDT by Exit148
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To: OneWingedShark

There’s no reasoning with an authoritarian statist Philistine who believes in conformity.

Orchestras are not run like football teams or the army.

A certain amount of individual flamboyance is not only allowed, but encouraged.

Check out the wardrobe of Jacques-Yves Thibaudet sometime.


51 posted on 09/25/2012 1:53:35 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine ("On the ascent of Olympus, what's a botched bar or two?" -Artur Schnabel)
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To: Exit148

Bovine Scatology!


52 posted on 09/25/2012 1:55:38 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine ("On the ascent of Olympus, what's a botched bar or two?" -Artur Schnabel)
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To: Exit148

Given the stupidity of school administrations, I bet these “teachers” would object if the child turned up with an authentic stradavarius(sp?). “it would be unfair to the other students”

Musical instruments are very personal.

As for your example, I think parents only see THEIR little maestro to the exclusion of all others.


53 posted on 09/25/2012 1:57:57 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: All

I remember reading about an orchestra that was sued for discrimination.

HOWEVER it failed when it was pointed out the auditions were behind a visually opaque but sound transparent screen so those interviewing could ONLY judge based on sound alone. There was no way to have any appearance or look come into the judgment.

This thread seems to point out how some people are just would up a bit too tight.


54 posted on 09/25/2012 2:02:52 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Talisker

I read a wonderful article in my newspaper yesterday about a10-year-old kid who is into surfboarding competitively. He’s homeschooled, has the freedom to go to the West Coast or East Coast to surf anytime his parents let him, or visit his grandparents in Florida for six weeks at a time when invited, all through the school year. He just promises them to keep up with his school work, and I guess he does.

Too bad more kids don’t have that freedom. They’d be a lot happier.


55 posted on 09/25/2012 2:22:55 PM PDT by goldi
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To: goldi

The kids are only free to bang each other like rabbits these days


56 posted on 09/25/2012 2:24:20 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Emperor Palpatine
A certain amount of individual flamboyance is not only allowed, but encouraged.

Not when you're 5th deck 2nd violin it's not.

This girl needs to understand that society doesn't revolve around her (or more importantly, her mother).

57 posted on 09/25/2012 2:50:54 PM PDT by politicket (1 1/2 million attended Obama's coronation - only 14 missed work!)
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To: politicket
>>This girl needs to understand that society doesn't revolve around her (or more importantly, her mother). <<


58 posted on 09/25/2012 2:54:13 PM PDT by Daffynition (Self-respect: the secure feeling that no one, as yet, is suspicious. ~ HLM)
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To: absolootezer0

Good question. I played a chromed f-key trombone in school while all the other trombone players had standard brass (non f-key) trombones and I never had any complaints from any of my directors/teachers.


59 posted on 09/25/2012 2:54:16 PM PDT by RatSlayer
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To: All
"This whole thing is like telling Axl Rose he has to use some guitar from Kmart"

Axl Rose would sound MUCH better if he used a guitar from Kmart. He's talentless, but noisy.

60 posted on 09/25/2012 2:54:57 PM PDT by politicket (1 1/2 million attended Obama's coronation - only 14 missed work!)
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