Posted on 09/29/2012 12:13:05 PM PDT by nickcarraway
[ The Great Sonny Rollins on Why Jazz Is “King of All Musics” ]
WRONG.. Classical and Classical Crossover is KIng and Queen...
Jazz is just a nuance of Blues and the base of PoP..
RAP is not even music.. it is posturing by people with no musical talent..
FAKE music or PoP Propaganda.. or even Junk Agitprop..
Classical is the King of Music.. the more you hate Classical the more APE-like you are..
Eventially degrading to RAP and acting like an APE..
thinking like an Ape, some even walking like APES..
The emotions, tone, demeanor, and harmony of Classical is wide and deep.. and Classical Cross-over is like a “Sigh”.. or glance of the eyes.. Classical and Classical-Crossover is like two genres dancing sometimes romantic sometimes brisk and lively..
Jazz is a Princess and Blues a Prince both learning to be potty trained.. a good wipe and their good as new..
PoP vomits quite often and RAP pisses on the TV..
**NOTE: My next class will be on the difference between, Politics and Tribal musical chairs.. (seating is limited)..
I don’t know what it is but I cannot get into Jazz. All it sounds like to me is all the musicians play solos and don’t listen to each other.
Plus, and this is a major reason, is the numerous 7th and 11th chords not to mention the suspended ones. It sounds to me like a piano where you play the adjacent white and black keys at the same time, is sounds terrible.
Different strokes and all that...
By “classical” I assume you mean orchestral?
The “classical” period is best known for Mozart & Haydn. Beethoven’s early symphonies are classical - but his 5th symphony is thought by some to be the point at which we begin to enter the “Romantic” period.
I’m partial to the Romantic period on into the 20th century.
Jazz is an acquired taste, and presents difficulty to the pedestrian listener because it requires that the listener actively focus and participate. It’s not music to be played in the background - although much “jazz” is easy listening.
Eventially degrading to RAP and acting like an APE.. thinking like an Ape, some even walking like APES..
The emotions, tone, demeanor, and harmony of Classical is wide and deep.. and Classical Cross-over is like a “Sigh”.. or glance of the eyes.. Classical and Classical-Crossover is like two genres dancing sometimes romantic sometimes brisk and lively..
Jazz is a Princess and Blues a Prince both learning to be potty trained.. a good wipe and their good as new..
PoP vomits quite often and RAP pisses on the TV..
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Dude, you sound "ape-like" in the extreme yourself.
Even classical musicians admit that (except for pianists) jazz musicians best them when it comes to sheer ability on their instruments.
And what is "Classical Crossover"? Mantovani?
Duke Ellington put it best.
“There’s only two kinds of music. Good music and bad music, so if it sounds good, it is good.”
The great Arthur Rubinstein once remarked that Oscar Peterson was the greatest pianist he had ever heard.
Some can do both equally well. Andre Previn is one of these, add his prowess as a conductor and he’s a triple-threat.
[ Jazz is an acquired taste ]
I love Jazz/Blues BUT its not the King of Music.. its just not..
Its not even the Transvestite of Music.. too hairy..
Only an uneducated moron would call JAzz the King of Music..
Much music on this planet, Jazz is just a temporal riff..
Jazz has some good chops but it is still temporal.. and a side issue..
I even listen to a bit of RAP, its like a Chimp smoking a cigarette wearing a hat.. quite funny..
Brazilian Jazz is becoming quite good.. American Jazz sometimes sounds like they are tuning their instruments.. and after listening you know they often havn’t..
Diana Krall is big right now.. Although quite beautiful her playing is marginal mostly.. Not bad, just marginal..
“You’ve referred to jazz as the “king of all musics.” ....Well I think that, especially in our world, we have so many kinds of music now. There’s your so-called popular music and all these offshoots and world musics. But jazz is somehow the tops. And I don’t mean this in a way to sound like I’m putting other music down. I’m not. Everybody loves jazz music. I find guys who play all styles of music and when they talk about jazz music, they speak in a very reverential way. They know how difficult it is to play.”
Stick to your sax, dude: ‘thinking’ isn’t your life’s calling.
I’m embarrassed for you after reading that post. You sound like the philharmonic equivalent of the Obama Phone Lady.
"Reincarnation of a Lovebird", "Goodbye Porkpie Hat" and "Wednesday Night Prayer Meeting" all demonstrate how artificial the line is between blues, jazz and "art music." Especially when the artist is a genius who undeceived by categorization.
“Even classical musicians admit that (except for pianists) jazz musicians best them when it comes to sheer ability on their instruments.”
In the 30-odd years since I began at the Interlochen Arts Academy as a high school freshman majoring in orchestral composition I have never once - not ever - heard a classical musician say anything even remotely like what you’re saying.
I’ve found your sentiments are basically something that jazz musicians claim that classical musicians say.
Usually, when the subject of jazz comes up amongst classical musicians the general opinion tends to be indifferent or sometimes down on jazz.
But, frankly, I’ve never understand why anyone even bothers to have these conversations: jazz and classical music musicians aren’t really comparable: the two styles require a different skill-set of talents.
And both of those skill-sets are really cool when they’re dead on.
I was a music major, changed majors after I realized I wasn’t going to be a rock star and the only jobs available to me would have been teaching or possibly orchestra, and I agree with you.
You hear a classically trained pianist play something like Beethoven’s Moonlight Sonata 2nd movement and it is mind blowing. I have never heard jazz like that.
Now, you go to something like big band music and I love that. They even tune their instruments.
I'm not a pedestrian listener and to hear music that sounds like it has no form, doesn't appear to modulate smoothly between keys or even keeping time and it would help if they listened to one another and tuned their instruments as well.
Isn't Kenny G a jazz musician? He actually sounds like easy listening to me.
I listen to some jazz, and love live jazz, but for many decades, once I realized that the pretentious and liberals fall all over themselves praising jazz, I have been making casual note of how many houses I enter, are playing Jazz, and since I have been working in jobs that take me into homes for almost my entire life, I have a lot of experience entering stranger’s homes, decades of it on the good old, liberal, wealthy, Southern California coast.
My experience is that people praise jazz, they just don’t listen to it. I don’t think that I have ever gone into a home where they were listening to jazz while alone and during the day.
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