Survivor Camille here too...as a 12 year old...at Pass Road in Long Beach...near Rich Ave...190 MPH sustained....the train tracks hump saved a lot of folks in that area..anyone beach side of tracks was in trouble...floating homes and what not
28 foot sustained surge with velocity over a flat coastal sound plain...water rolled up from the Mississippi Sound which averages 12 foot depth
the sound and the fury...you never forget the sound
Rich ave has been dirt since Katrina..old bungalows all gone..a few of the live oaks left
I hope am I not wrong but this is a media event compared to big killer storms
24 hour weather and news pumps up everything..not just hurricanes
a storm like Camille or Katrina or Andrew is a whole nother matter
something like that hit Long Island coast and it would be the catostrophe they all imagine but given the latitudes that is just never likely....rare
something like 3 truly big storms since early 1800s to make landfall above the Carolinas
not to say a lot of rain can’t make problems
or Sheepshead bay or the Rockaways might not get flooded or inland folks get flooded and lose power...yes
but a strong storm with biblical implications it is not
yet every single time anything from 50 miles an hour up hits at 75 degrees west the media in the path makes it all about them
the Mississippi Gulf Coast is still a wasteland mostly 7 years later...that is a bigger story...but never was
but if the NE megapolis ever does have another true serious storm...not so late season
given how much their demographics are questionable...I would get my family outta there...and it’s so damned crowded...it gives a scenario right out of Matt’s books
down here we know how to deal with threats...up there folks rely on the govt
True that, Betsy and Andrew, you never forget the roar, howl of the wind, have never heard a similar sound.
does anybody remember michelle obama saying you should vote early in case your toilet over flows or something?
“a storm like Camille or Katrina or Andrew is a whole nother matter
“something like that hit Long Island coast and it would be the catostrophe they all imagine but given the latitudes that is just never likely”
“down here we know how to deal with threats...up there folks rely on the govt”.
You can be sure you won’t find people hanging out on the Jersey Shore after tonight. We take, as Gabz says, these Nor’easters hurricaine hybrids seriously.
Went through a cat 1 partying on the beach. wouldn’t walk out onto the pier just to get pulled into the H2O but that pier and the structure we sat on, which was built in the 1920’s with reinforcements, were gone in one hour during the “perfect storm”, which was not as ominous as this one is looking like.
It’s a surprisingly self reliant population.
And when they see this thing coming - and they can see the surf and the weird behavior of animals, the cloud patterns, etc, they don’t depend so much on technology as you might think - they’ve been through these for many generations and have stories and legends- they get out. they don’t fool around and they go to extended family.
They don’t rely on cat 1-2-3- etc predictions. Those are for gulf & southern coast late summer storms. These storms coma=e in late Oct and they take away the beach.
It did. An unnamed storm in 1938. Went over LI and up into Providence RI. Flooded the heck out of that city. Killed a lot of people.
You don’t hear much about big storms like this in those parts partly - partly- because many structures are built to take it and were built long before electricity (we had five fireplaces in our house- spent two weeks after 1979 ice storm in freezing temps without any power). Ran out of firewood. That’ll never happen again. Neighbors get to know each other and depend on each other. Been living in the South for many years, lack of neighborliness frightens me for disasters.
Wouldn’t dream of not having a fireplace.
Here it is:
“Great New England Hurricane of 1938, nicknamed the Long Island Express. It was a category 3 hurricane that flooded the Big Apple.”
Elders tell stories of things like this. We expect them, and are warned about them - not by Jim Cantore, bless him - by grandparents who went through this stuff and telll us not to rely on technology so much, nature is powerful.
Spoke w a Connecticut-(ian?) today. Loaded, big suburban house, lots of new cars, says, “yes we have a generator. It’s supposed to work. . . we’ll see. Have enough food to feed Texas”
Me: “Do you have firewood?”
She: “Well, yes, but that’ll mean we have no running water and we did that last year for that snowstorm. . . That’s a bad memory”
THey live in this stuff a lot more than folks think.
The gulf doesn’t produce storms like this one. LA is sparsley populated and the surrounding states don’t have that many people. This is a different animal.