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Vanity: Time to stop being down in the dumps and start planning for 2014 and 2016
6 November 2012 | Sola Veritas

Posted on 11/06/2012 8:52:31 PM PST by Sola Veritas

OK...so Obama has won reelection. It will be bad, of that there is NO doubt. However, good can come from this.


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To: Rokurota

People here are in denial. It’s sad to see.
When Reagan was President 84 percent of Americans were working.
16 percent were takers.

Now, 47 percent of Americans are takers. And with 4 more years
Of Obama, that number will grow. More food stamps, more welfare, more
Illegals
More Obama Phones. U get the picture. The Takers have overrun
The country. Unfortunately, the numbers are just not there nationally.


121 posted on 11/06/2012 9:18:56 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: snowstorm12

This nation has to hit the wall before anything will change. That wall will have 1861 written on it.


122 posted on 11/06/2012 9:18:57 PM PST by oyez ( .Affordable Care is neither affordable nor care.)
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To: Sola Veritas
Bush wasn't a conservative. Dole wasn't a conservative. Bush the younger wasn't a conservative. McCain wasn't a conservative. Willard wasn't a f*cking conservative.

What makes you think anything will change4 in the GOP over the next four years?

The GOP is out of excuses and we will not likely survive this election as a Unified Nation.

123 posted on 11/06/2012 9:19:12 PM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: stboz

Yep. Why else has O ‘Reilly been writing books about Lincoln and there just happens to be a movie coming out about Lincoln? The GOP is dead. It’s going to split. The whole country could split. I don’t want to be a slave.


124 posted on 11/06/2012 9:19:56 PM PST by virgil
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To: grey_whiskers

We prayed.

God’s answer was “no”.


125 posted on 11/06/2012 9:20:05 PM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Sola Veritas




Give a hand



126 posted on 11/06/2012 9:20:11 PM PST by Lady Jag (If you can't make them see the light, let them feel the heat. - Reagan)
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To: Sola Veritas

It is about to.get worse. I am done. Making plans to.regroup and get off the grid some how. It is very clear that these idiots want the govt to run things. I am seriously thinking about costa rica.

You have seen what this man has done. I have never in all my years of elections have seen someone get reelected in the state this country is in. There is nothing to stop him now.

For once in my life I am truly frightened. More people are going to lose their jobs more take over of businesses and industry through regulatios. You/we are going to be witnesses to the total collapse of our capital
sysem and in its place a socialist government much like Venezuela.

Most of us knew that this election was for all the marbles and we lost and by losing we lost what was left of the republic. Elections in 4 more years? Don’t thing so. America is goone. The only satifaction is that these people who voted for Obama will suffer too.

As for Romney he was not my first choice. But as I watched him he had gained my.respect and trust. He would have made a fine president. He should have won tonight. Something is terribly wrong here.


127 posted on 11/06/2012 9:20:57 PM PST by waxer1 (Don't vote for revenge. Vote for love of country-Mitt Romney)
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To: Sola Veritas; All

If the GOP wants to win national and other key elections...they will need to:

- Dump the Liberal PhonyCon RINO candidates and agenda. It does not work. If you still think it works...maybe you should talk to President Dole, President McCain, and ask George HW Bush how his second term went?

- Dump the “we need Hispanic voters” nonsense. All that is doing is pushing Illegal Alien Amnesty...which turns off a large segment of the base. And, Illegal Aliens and their supporters are never going to vote GOP anyway

- Dump the Free Trade/Globalism nonsense. Why emulate the EU? And, you cannot win conservative-to-moderate working-class voters who vote Democrat because you want to ship their job to Communist China. Like the “Hispanic Voters/Amnesty” nonsense....Free Trade/Globalism is a sure loser in the Rust Belt states. and, Free Trade is a Liberal idea...look at all the Dems and European Socialists who support it?

- Realize that Fox News, GOP Talk Radio, and most of GOP Media is not conservative. They used to be conservative, but now they attack people who bring up Obama Eligibility! These are the same people that were willing to impeach Clinton for soiling an interns dress....and now they are chickening out on a wholly Constitutional regarding w Obama?

- Emphasize sites like FR and others that support and promote real conservative values. Get the word out to others. Alluding to my previous point....I cannot believe there are those in the GOP Media who attack FreeRepublic, WND, Drudge, and some other sites. Hint: A GOP Talker or Media person is not a conservative if they are attacking this site or other conservative sites


128 posted on 11/06/2012 9:21:51 PM PST by SeminoleCounty (Political maturity is realizing that the "R" next to someone's name does not mean "conservative")
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To: Sola Veritas; All

If the GOP wants to win national and other key elections...they will need to:

- Dump the Liberal PhonyCon RINO candidates and agenda. It does not work. If you still think it works...maybe you should talk to President Dole, President McCain, and ask George HW Bush how his second term went?

- Dump the “we need Hispanic voters” nonsense. All that is doing is pushing Illegal Alien Amnesty...which turns off a large segment of the base. And, Illegal Aliens and their supporters are never going to vote GOP anyway

- Dump the Free Trade/Globalism nonsense. Why emulate the EU? And, you cannot win conservative-to-moderate working-class voters who vote Democrat because you want to ship their job to Communist China. Like the “Hispanic Voters/Amnesty” nonsense....Free Trade/Globalism is a sure loser in the Rust Belt states. and, Free Trade is a Liberal idea...look at all the Dems and European Socialists who support it?

- Realize that Fox News, GOP Talk Radio, and most of GOP Media is not conservative. They used to be conservative, but now they attack people who bring up Obama Eligibility! These are the same people that were willing to impeach Clinton for soiling an interns dress....and now they are chickening out on a wholly Constitutional regarding w Obama?

- Emphasize sites like FR and others that support and promote real conservative values. Get the word out to others. Alluding to my previous point....I cannot believe there are those in the GOP Media who attack FreeRepublic, WND, Drudge, and some other sites. Hint: A GOP Talker or Media person is not a conservative if they are attacking this site or other conservative sites


129 posted on 11/06/2012 9:22:10 PM PST by SeminoleCounty (Political maturity is realizing that the "R" next to someone's name does not mean "conservative")
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To: irishtenor

No we won’t. We are in the early stages of a massive debt spiral that will consume us. This is beginning of the end of the Great Unravelling that will take us into the Fourth Turning. In 20 years, nothing about our society will be the same.


130 posted on 11/06/2012 9:22:12 PM PST by garbanzo (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine)
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To: cuban leaf

“Yes, I believe this very conversation was taking place in Jewish communities in Germany in 1935.”

Yeah, good analogy. Whether we attrite our way out or it is more immediate, we are done. I don’t plan to tell fairy tales to prop up anyone spirits. It has NEVER been this bad, not even under Roosevelt, at least he wanted the US to survive, this guy does not and those who support him are interested in one thing....keeping their bennies coming.

Best case, dollar collapses, which it would were Europe not a basket case too, and we start over. Such a calamity most would not be able to deal with and rapid change would come.


131 posted on 11/06/2012 9:22:13 PM PST by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: Pushead

I read the whole book. Jesus wins in the end.


132 posted on 11/06/2012 9:22:28 PM PST by irishtenor (Everything in moderation, however, too much whiskey is just enough... Mark Twain)
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To: oldplayer

I just e-mailed my Army father (Legion of Merit, Bronze Star, Air Medals) and issued a similar apology for being a `Pollyanna’ about the mental acuity and character of my fellow Americans. He saw this coming, I didn’t.

I believed, surely America wouldn’t punch this Zero’s ticket again after the last four years! I thought it was a lock. (I know. Don’t call you Shirley.)

So ... `Turn those frowns upside down’? `The sun’ll come up tomorrow’? America just re-elected a huge pile of stable-leavings, knowing what he is ... And there ain’t no pony in there, anywhere.

I’m dropping out, too, oldplayer and doing more prepping. I won’t make a nickle more than I want to be taxed—Why should I work more for less? So that I can turn it over to Zero so he can give it away?—and I’m gaming the system as much as I can. I have a cousin in Alaska and may look into that.

There’s no working to patch something as badly flawed as half this country has proven itself to be tonight. It is what it is.

Off to bed now, it’s a brand new day in Amerika tomorrow.


133 posted on 11/06/2012 9:22:50 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: Sola Veritas

1) No conservative to FR liking is never going to be president again. Romney was the gops best hope; Santorum,
Bachman, Hunstman, Gingrich, Paul would not have done better.

3) How do you square “conservatives can stop devouring each other and develop consensus” with “NO MORE RINOs”? The gops shrinking tent is a real liability and to keep throwing out RINOs (libertairians, and Reagan democrats, etc.) just is not good strategy for winning elections.

5) Doomsday is on Dec 21. ;)


134 posted on 11/06/2012 9:23:33 PM PST by IDFbunny
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To: Pushead

Your post is right on!
We are in the end times.
Of course there will be those here who scoff at that.
Jesus said that many would do so.
But if you read clearly the scriptures they have laid out our map clearly.

I fear we are the generation or our grandchildren, who will suffer much before Our Lord’s Return....


135 posted on 11/06/2012 9:23:58 PM PST by pollywog ("O Thou who changest not, abide with me.".......)
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To: Dead Corpse
I mean, pray for guidance on what to do *now*.

Secondly -- was it God's answer, or man's fraud?

There were reportedly 100,000 more votes for Obama in Philadelphia than there were registered Dems; and Dade County was allowed to have approx. 1/4 of their precincts continue voting *three hours* after the polls closed.

GOP turnout was very large; it may be that voter fraud was larger.

*IF* that was the case, was it God's will or our not being vigilant (even long term, to allow the buildup and conditions for the fraud to be put in place and considered "normal")?

136 posted on 11/06/2012 9:24:36 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Noumenon

Amen.


137 posted on 11/06/2012 9:25:20 PM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Sola Veritas

Now, the democrats will expand their attacks on our Christian churches...homosexual marriage will be a reality...the issue was never really about gay rights people...it is about the destruction of our Christian churches.

They will take over by regulatory and taxation power our private sector.

They will create an atmosphere where it is even more difficult for opposition...look at how the media helped the democrat party this election cycle...it is insane to think that it will get better later...they are going to consolidate power even more than during the first term.

No, if we want to change things we will have to bring down this government by other means...legal means. In Poland they boycotted and walked off their jobs and defeated the Communists...but, in this country we still live in a relative lap of luxury...most will not risk their precious livelihoods to save the nation...hell, I remember how many could not go to the Tea Party event just before the obamacare vote because of familiy or friend get togethers...these people will not be put out by restoring freedom.

So, we can live here watching this country decline and our children’s opportunities die more every year or we can choose to move to better more free nations...now there are plenty.

Don’t know what I will do yet but I am leaning towards moving to another nation.


138 posted on 11/06/2012 9:25:20 PM PST by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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To: ThunderSleeps

Congress and Senate have been reduced to Kabuki theater. They mean less than nothing to those who intend to rule by fiat.


139 posted on 11/06/2012 9:25:20 PM PST by Noumenon (“The other side wants everything in America to be free, except us.” -- Paul Ryan)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
What you say is true and far too many here are in denial. Rush had better be prepared for what he will face tomorrow. This is no longer a center right nation. We as Conservatives are a hated commodity. The dim party tonight has stated that Conservatives are the problem. They hate us and they want us gone... they want us out of the gop... no problem there... I am gone from the gop forever. It is just a matter of time before we either are forced to swear allegiance to the new world order and deny all that we know to be true... or face the Gulags... I will never turn my back on what I know that America was meant to be... any more than I would turn my back on CHRIST my savior. I will die with my boots on regardless.

LLS

140 posted on 11/06/2012 9:25:45 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (OUR GOVERNMENT AND PRESS ARE NO LONGER TRUSTWORTHY OR DESERVING OF RESPECT!)
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