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To: Tired of Taxes; daniel1212; Cronos

While attending services is not mandatory for Evangelicals, likewise, it’s likely that a number who claim the label of Evangelical are no more Evangelical than the twice a year Catholic is Catholic.

And if it is acceptable for Catholics to disown those secular or cultural Catholics, then it is acceptable for the Evangelical to disown the secular person who claims the label of Evangelical.

If Evangelicals are required (demanded of so to speak) to own ALL who claim the label of Evangelical, then the same standards need to be rightly applied to ALL denominations.

It can’t be a matter of *Do as I say, not as I do*.

Nobody is responsible for how others act, no matter what label they wear. What I object to is the double standard.

Cronos, how much time have you lived in the US? Are you a citizen?


109 posted on 11/09/2012 2:00:15 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom; Tired of Taxes; daniel1212; Cronos
While attending services is not mandatory for Evangelicals, likewise, it’s likely that a number who claim the label of Evangelical are no more Evangelical than the twice a year Catholic is Catholic. And if it is acceptable for Catholics to disown those secular or cultural Catholics, then it is acceptable for the Evangelical to disown the secular person who claims the label of Evangelical.

IMHO, by separating the evangelicals from other protestants in the study, the people who identify as "Christian" but no longer hold Christian beliefs have already been disowned. "Evangelicals" take their faith very seriously.

In any case, the evangelical vote is not being attacked here. As I stated previously on post #104, "a majority of church-going Catholics voted for Romney, but not by as wide a margin as Evangelicals, and that is disappointing."

Protestants (including evangelicals) voted 57% Romney, 42% Obama.

Evangelicals alone voted 78% Romney, 21% Obama.

Catholics (including those who don't attend Mass) voted 50% Obama, 48% Romney.

Catholics who attend Mass voted 67% Romney, 32% Obama.

(Source: This study by the Faith & Freedom Coalition.)

So, according to these numbers, people who are serious about their Christian faith tend to vote Republican, no matter what denomination they are.

Meanwhile, a greater percentage of protestants of all stripes voted Republican. Why? It most likely has more to do with location/region. I've been reading this thread and chuckling to myself about the claims that protestants are so conservative. Many of the protestants and protestant churches around here in a blue state are liberal/Left to the maximum. That's why I ran screaming back to the Catholic Church. Since more red staters are protestant, and more blue staters are Catholic, maybe the votes have more to do with location than religion.

127 posted on 11/10/2012 6:19:28 AM PST by Tired of Taxes
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To: metmom; Tired of Taxes; daniel1212; boatbums
And if it is acceptable for Catholics to disown those secular or cultural Catholics, then it is acceptable for the Evangelical to disown the secular person who claims the label of Evangelical.

Really -- fo you say it's acceptable to you for "Catholics to disown those secular or cultural Catholics"?

141 posted on 11/10/2012 8:12:01 AM PST by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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