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To: daniel1212
No, it's perfectly logically -- if you are asking why 50% of Catholics (many hispanic Catholics) voted for Obama, why not answer why 20% of evangelicals did as well -- if you say "t evangelicals are more conservative", then why is there this 20%?

your posts are accusative yet not giving a response for why evangelicals, white evangelicals with no historical baggage of Democrats vote for them -- do you have any reason for why evangelicals voted for OBama?

85 posted on 11/09/2012 1:27:24 AM PST by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: daniel1212
Let's see -- evangelicals in 2010 were 34% of the entire voting block and Catholics were 24%. Other non-Catholics would be 25%

50% of Catholics (i.e. 12% of the voting block) and 20% of evangelicals (i.e. 7% of the voting block) and 42% of Protestant/other (i.e. 10% of the voting block) voted for Obama

Now, 121 million odd voted, and 62 million voted for 0. that means that 21 million non-Cathlics voted for Obama, out of which 9 million evangelicals voted for Obama and 14.5 million Catholic idiots voted for him as well

Now as you are a self-avowed e, can you explain why 21 million Protestants (far outshadowing the 14 million Catholic idiots) voted for Obama?

Or to give you some lee-way, can you explain why 9 million evangelicals voted for Obama? that's nearly as many as the 14 million Catholics

I call the Catholics who voted for 0 as idiots (or worse) and I intend getting something done about them. What are you doing among the evangelicals?

89 posted on 11/09/2012 2:22:11 AM PST by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: daniel1212
The only explanation one could give for the 9 million evangelicals who voted for Obama is that they are idiots and need to be told about the errors. Ditto for the 14 million Catholics.
90 posted on 11/09/2012 2:24:16 AM PST by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: Cronos; daniel1212; metmom; Lera
No, it's perfectly logically -- if you are asking why 50% of Catholics (many hispanic Catholics) voted for Obama, why not answer why 20% of evangelicals did as well -- if you say "t evangelicals are more conservative", then why is there this 20%? your posts are accusative yet not giving a response for why evangelicals, white evangelicals with no historical baggage of Democrats vote for them -- do you have any reason for why evangelicals voted for OBama?

The major reason for why this is even an issue is NOT because we are pitting Evangelicals against Catholics to determine which is more Conservative, but because it is the Catholic Church which insists that "faithful" Catholics give full and obedient faith to ALL the dogmas and doctrines established by the Church.

Evangelical churches, as Daniel1212 has explained, are independent churches and there IS no overall Pope or human overseer who can demand full adherence in areas that are in the realm of extra-Biblical beliefs. There is an understood set of beliefs and organization that set-apart Evangelical churches from the mainstream Protestant churches, even though on the major tenets of the Christian faith, there is agreement as well as similarity with all other Christian denominations, including Catholicism. But none of them threaten "excommunication" on someone if they don't vote a certain way. Are Evangelicals pro-life? Yes, usually. Are they against homosexual marriage? Yes, usually. Evangelicals usually can be depended upon to vote for the Conservative candidates and causes - without someone hanging the threat of exile from the church over their heads.

But the Catholic Church is different. They DO demand fealty to everything that comes down the pike to their members and DO hang the threat of exile from the church (and the subsequent denial of sacraments) upon all those who disobey. That's why the fact that over 50% of these same Catholics, who failed to follow the demands, calls into question both the effectiveness and the power of the hierarchy to actually do what they say they will do. Kind of like your child when you tell him if he does a certain thing he will get punished, and he does the thing but is not punished. What does that say about your authority? What does that say about the Church's authority and the respect and unity it claims to have? It's no wonder why non-Catholics question such claims. It appears to be all bark and no bite - hardly something the early church was guilty of doing, Paul made sure of that!

Maybe if Christians had a genuine, Christ-centered relationship with God and their fellow Body of Christ members and they understood the responsibility each one had to the other and to the world, it would filter down to their voting habits and there would be no need for an overlord to control them and tell them what they can or cannot vote for with empty threats. I don't know why such a large percentage of Catholics go against the dictates of their church and continually put in office people that, in the long run, harm that very church and its work. It could very well be that they are missing a personal walk with Christ which would result in a disconnect in what they really believe and how they vote. I don't know, but I think it is sure something the Catholic Church should figure out.

123 posted on 11/09/2012 11:28:43 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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