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To: HannibalHamlinJr

This has me thinking of a line from my favorite book, Walden. He wasn’t talking about something different but it fits here if the new republic of Texas was to allow immigration from the blue countries.

“They would have to be passed through a powerful press first, to squeeze their old notions out of them, so that they would not soon get upon their legs again; and then there would be some one in the company with a maggot in his head, hatched from an egg deposited there nobody knows when, for not even fire kills these things, and you would have lost your labor.”

Eventually the same old ideas of the welfare state and egalitarianism would infect the new country but it would be long after we are all dead and probably our children.


69 posted on 11/09/2012 7:55:32 PM PST by albionin
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To: albionin

Oops. Wasn’t was supposed to be was.


71 posted on 11/09/2012 7:58:21 PM PST by albionin
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To: albionin

“...Eventually the same old ideas of the welfare state and egalitarianism would infect the new country but it would be long after we are all dead and probably our children.”

I believe our 40th president can answer this best...

“Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn’t pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children’s children what it was once like in the United States where men were free.” -Ronald Reagan


104 posted on 11/09/2012 8:49:48 PM PST by mom of young patriots
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To: albionin
That's the theme. Many things have changed - technology, medicine, math, physics. But what hasn't changed is the same old strengths and weaknesses of mankind.

Liberty has many incarnations. But the incarnations, the manifestations, die, and must. What doesn't die is that which incarnated the incarnations (I'm not being flip.) Never be attached to the USA so long as liberty is not its essence ... be attached to the invisible principle. If you think it can be restored in the USA, then fight for that.

If you think it can't, then fight for THAT ... but if there is ever to be a lasting peace and liberty ... it's primary thrust will not be violence.

It will be that peaceful liberty-lovers choose to live amongst themselves.

The reason liberty was sourced in the Decl of Independence as 'from a Creator' is that it's beyond ideology, before thought. It's already there. It's before the manifested. So it never leaves.

The reason Emerson comes to mind is that they (Emerson and Freedom) are related at the base of ourselves, before thought - Emerson merely reported what came to him through meditation ... which is not black magic ... it's just that you quiet the mind (thoughts, opinions, ideology) and what comes comes ... Freedom is pre-ideology ... so it always comes up amongst enlightened writers.

109 posted on 11/09/2012 8:59:46 PM PST by HannibalHamlinJr
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