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To: DiogenesLamp

The birther movement has been one embarrassing failure after another. Don’t pretend you were at any time offering a legitimate challenge to Obama sitting at your keyboard repeating idiotic conspiracy theories on the Internet.


184 posted on 11/15/2012 6:18:45 AM PST by Kleon
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To: Kleon
The birther movement has been one embarrassing failure after another. Don’t pretend you were at any time offering a legitimate challenge to Obama sitting at your keyboard repeating idiotic conspiracy theories on the Internet.

Ouch! You are striking right at the heart of the birther fantasy there.

A lot of birthers imagine that by sitting at their keyboards, repeating idiotic conspiracy theories, they are changing the world. The usurper is going to be driven from the White House, any day! All because they repeated that he was born in Kenya.

If they have a case, then they ought to be on the phone to their Congressman, or they ought to be pouring their time, effort and dollars into lawsuits.

If they want the matter before the public, then they ought to be on the phone with Sean Hannity and Mark Levin and Rush Limbaugh and Fox News. And every other conservative talk show host and reporter in the country.

If they can't win with their Congressman, and they can't win in the courts, and they can't get any coverage from any major conservative commentator, then that ought to be a clue to them (it isn't, because they're not capable of "getting" subtle hints like that) that everyone of any stature in the country thinks they simply don't have a case.

I want to comment particularly on Mark Levin. The guy is Mr. Constitution. It's practically all he talks about.

Birthers imagine they have a great case that it takes two citizen parents for anybody to be a natural born citizen. And yet the most Constitutionally-literate, most knowledgeable, most scholarly, most Constitution-committed conservative talk show host in the nation won't touch their argument with a 20-foot pole. Won't give them the time of day.

And somehow they don't find this odd. Well, it is odd. So let's find an excuse for it. Because it can't be that the two citizen parent stuff is BS. So Mark Levin must be deaf. Or he's not getting his mail. Or he's corrupt. Obama has bribed him.

Well, none of those work. So he must be either too concerned about his image, or Obama must have threatened his family. Yeah, that's it. He's afraid of Obama.

Every single day Levin goes on the air and rails against Obama, and makes all kinds of accusations against the President, but he's secretly so afraid of him that he won't touch the question of whether it takes citizen parents to be a natural born citizen. He'll call Obama a Socialist, but won't dare even entertain the question of whether he's a natural born citizen.

Yeah, right.

But it's so easy to sit at your keyboard and repeat conspiracy theories on the internet and tell yourself, "Hey, I'm actually doing something! Hey, I'm changing the country! Gosh, this is easy! Obama will surely be gone by Christmas!"

And if anyone tells you that you would do conservatism a far better service by getting up and going and campaigning for a conservative candidate of your choice, or going and raising funds for a conservative candidate, or convincing others of the value of conservatism and the fact that we're on the wrong course, that person is (of course) a secret liberal or a "troll."

By the way, how many birther courtroom failures are we up to now? I can't even keep count. Is it 100? 150? 200? Where are we?

191 posted on 11/15/2012 7:51:11 AM PST by Jeff Winston
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To: Kleon; DiogenesLamp
a legitimate challenge to Obama

Tell us what is this legitimate challenge you speak of?

And then tell us when and who gave you 'standing' in this matter? Then we will see who the one is who SHOULD be embarrassed.

195 posted on 11/15/2012 9:29:49 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: Kleon
The birther movement has been one embarrassing failure after another.

Hard to make progress when your own side goes to such great efforts to help the enemy stab you in the back.

Don’t pretend you were at any time offering a legitimate challenge to Obama sitting at your keyboard repeating idiotic conspiracy theories on the Internet.

I'm pretty certain you can search my entire posting history and not discover any suggestion from me that any of this was a "conspiracy." I have been pretty adamant that there is no conspiracy, just massive incompetence and idiocy on the part of people who failed to do their jobs. (government officials.)

As for real efforts on my part, I did what I could to get the issue brought to the attention of my state legislators, and we came D@mn close to getting a law passed which would REQUIRE a presidential candidate to submit a certified copy of an ORIGINAL birth certificate.

Unfortunately, the Governor decided the whole issue would be an embarrassment, and so worked behind the scenes calling in favors to get them to let the legislative term expire with no action taken. This is another example of what I mean about getting back-stabbed by your "Allies."

So how did that "ballot box" thing work out for ya? Any better success than "birthers?"

242 posted on 11/16/2012 5:35:22 PM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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