[Sherman Logan]

I think most people lose their irony when they have kids.

Few people can be ironic, which means being uninvested, with their own children.

Which means a lot of people aren’t growing up until they start having children. Which is kind of sad.

I think irony is kind of like sophistication. Back in the early 60s I remember my considerably more wealthy cousins being bored out of their gourds by our simple pursuits when they visited. Quite a bit of the time I could see they really wanted to jump in, but it would spoil their pose of being big-city sophisticates.

[A_perfect_lady]

It reminds me of writing I've seen about the French aristocracy of the 18th century right before the Revolution. A Dangerous Liaisons sort of mentality. But you're right about kids. I never had any, and didn't really grow up till I became a teacher and had to deal with other people's children all day. It's been a revelation.