[spetznaz]

I agree with you that the Liberal Machine ('LM') is far bigger than Obama and his congresscritters, but what I am asking is what effect starting a third-party will have? Apart from a one-off 'feel good' effect that has no lasting impact apart from making the LM hegemony stronger due to a more diffuse opposition? Furthermore, changing the GOP from the inside would be bloody difficult, but a form of that was accomplished in 2010. The only problem is those gains were wasted.

Finally, I totally agree that the epitome of insanity is doing the same thing constantly while anticipating different outcomes. That's true. However, doesn't that apply to third parties as well??? Looking at the Libertarian Party, which is taken as a joke, or the Constitutional Party, which has even worse performance than the Green Party even, makes me wonder.

RINOs and Conservatives are, unfortunately, linked symbiotically. One cannot win without the other. The problem is that the RINOs have been driving everything for decades, and Conservatives have let it happen. What about taking over driving duties?

Now, I will be the first to say that might not be possible. The odds may be too potent. Maybe the reason the Tea Party storm was successful in 2010 is because the RINOs, and the LM in general, were simply not aware such a thing can occur and, now, they are ready to squish it in the bud. All that is possible.

All the same, I find it a whole lot less insane than starting (yet) another third-party, especially considering that the largest third-party (the Libertarians) couldn't even garner a single seat in the House or Senate, and the most conservative (the Constitutional Party) isn't even bigger than the (overtly) socialist/environmentalist Green Party.

What effect will starting another third-party have ...that is apart from a Pyrrhic 'feel good' while the LM goes from simply having persistence (due to it's control of media etc) to having pure dominance (due to diffusion of opposition)? I may be wrong (probably am), but I think controlling the RINOs seems like something that could work.

[hosepipe]

[ Looking at the Libertarian Party, which is taken as a joke, or the Constitutional Party, which has even worse performance than the Green Party even, makes me wonder. ]

In the past a third party was quite silly when the republican was “viable”...
Things have changed..

If a third party or even a caucus of “third parties” is possible, it is Now....
If even a third party viable.... it is now..

Maybe several third partys based on “issues”..
One party would be great but probably won’t happen..
Not all the abortion, gun and small givernment people agree..
But they can form a caucus.. even with the Libertarians..

Actually several third partys might be best in the beginning.. to increase demographic blocks..
As those parties mature they may merge..
Like the Tea Party which is no party..

Bottom line is republicans are leaving like lemmings..
With nowhere to go.. except some nebulous Independent Identification..

Someone should call a “meeting” of minds somewhere..
Conservatives are cats, democrats and Rinos are dogs..
Might take several parties to herd them cats..
With somewhere “to go” more republicans may “leave”.. and a few democrats as well..

Note: the republican party is dead as a floater in a latrine..