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The Right Calls Obama a Dictator, but Sarah Palin Disarmed the Alaska Civil Militia
Politicususa ^ | Jan. 18th, 2013 | Sarah Jones

Posted on 01/19/2013 5:32:14 PM PST by Bratch

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To: Strategerist; All
The DNC goes to sleep at night fantasizing about Palin being the nominee. They'd have a drunken-week long celebration party if she got the nomination.

If so, they would because they are fools who believe their own BS, or because they are warriors celebrating the approach of a real honest-to-goodness battle.

And then they would become furious at the utter stupidity of the American people for being so drawn to an attractive, optimistic, youthful figure who was telling them that the government was shackling them and using them, and that it was time to start challenging Federal assumptions and reclaiming individual and organized rights to be enterprising and productive on our own terms, instead of being held back by bureaucratic regulation from 15 different agencies.

The DNC would be left in the dust. Americans on the whole sneer at liberals the same way Palin does. They're primed in a way that scares folks on the right and the left.

I think you only think you know what the DNC would do.

81 posted on 01/19/2013 7:17:40 PM PST by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: Kolath

Very succinctly summarized. Exceptionally well done, Kolath.


82 posted on 01/19/2013 7:28:14 PM PST by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

She sold a state owned airplane ~


83 posted on 01/19/2013 7:28:27 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Bratch

Who??


84 posted on 01/19/2013 7:28:49 PM PST by sickoflibs (Losing to O is NO principle!)
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To: onyx

This gun grab has ONLY JUST BEGUN! Oh, the Sandy Hook incident, tragedy, was bad enough; and Obama’s not letting a CRISIS go to waste. - Worse is likely to happen with so many people being on pins and needles, and more Narcissists being all psyched up to show their butts. Then, of course, Obama will be JUSTIFIED in taking any drastic measures which he deems necessary. - To heck with the economy and “job creation”. It’s way more important to sink the coal and energy industry and GET MORE LAYABOUTS COLLECTING UNEMPLOYMENT AND FOOD STAMP CARDS!! - Is that on the right track? . . or am I mistaken and misled by that list compiled by the World Health Organization that showed the U.S. is actually pretty low on the murder per 100,000 population list? - Where’s this going? WHY IN THE HE double hockey sticks can’t we have a MOMENT’S PEACE ANY MORE? - or is that too much to ask???


85 posted on 01/19/2013 7:34:07 PM PST by Twinkie (JOHN 3:16)
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To: Islander2
This conclusion comes dangerously close to suggesting that education matters, gravity exists, there is such a thing as expertise and that not everyone should be armed with a gun. But outside of their own actual records, Republican exceptionalism demands that we attribute equal weight to non-exerts and arm chair wannabes, lest we be called “elitists”.

It's a typo. It should read "non-experts." The real problem is with the affirmative claim made by the author, which is nonsense. She thinks concealed carry advocates are of the opinion that random citizens in a one-on-one confrontation with an armed agressor would be as effective as people trained specifically for the job. Nobody has ever made that claim. She also believes that Alaska repudiated -- by a truly fabulous extrapolation -- the whole principle of self-defense.

Neither of those things is true. The argument for concealed carry is nothing more than this: in a confrontation with an violent aggressor who stands more of a chance: an armed citizen, or a disarmed one? [Hint for the Lefties, because you find this so difficult: the armed citizen.]

The AK decision doesn't repudiate this concept, it doesn't even address it. Nor does it "come dangerously close" to anything even remotely resembling it (or remotely resembling her own far-fetched interpretation, for that matter.) It simply says, "any state run enterprise better be conducted by highly trained people because the state is going to be responsible for the consequences."

That applies, by the way, to ordinary citizens putting out a fire as opposed to trained volunteer or professional fireman. Yet (strangely) no one (except liberals) advocates that if an untrained citizen sees a fire starting on top of his stove that he should step aside and wait for the professionals to arrive before putting it out -- however long that might take.

86 posted on 01/19/2013 7:37:10 PM PST by FredZarguna (Keep digging. It just gets funnier.)
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To: Bratch

“A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.”

The founders feared a militia that might degenerate into an armed gang or that would take orders from a tyrant. “The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.” means that citizens needed to be armed to ensure that any militia was regulated and would not be used by the government against the people.

Sounds like Sarah did the right thing and understands the intent of the second amendment. She disarmed the 280 person militia, she did not take the arms of private citizens.


87 posted on 01/19/2013 7:39:52 PM PST by BuffaloJack (Children, pets, and slaves get taken care of. Free Men take care of themselves.)
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To: RobertClark
Why are we so quick to offer a justification for this decision by Palin?

Wrong question.

Why are folks who should know better so quick to be credible?

Did you read the piece, and perceive that its author was a very poor writer and blindly liberal? Did you read the links to the actual happenstance, and see that the author is essentially an unrepentant Emily Latella?

You may disagree with Palin's decision, but if it's on 2nd amendment grounds, you are ... Emily Latella.

88 posted on 01/19/2013 7:43:15 PM PST by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: muawiyah

yeah, she did, but not sure I get the relevance here (could be I’m tired...)


89 posted on 01/19/2013 7:47:41 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: Blackirish
Yes she has a devoted following here on FR but nationally mo way. Fred Thompson syndrome.

Excuse the hell out of me, DoDo. I went to a Fred Thompson rally in O.C. California, and while the crowd was decent, it wasn't packed.

Palin drew crowds in the thousands. Sometimes the tens of thousands. Regularly.

And was it also only the "devoted following" on FR (but not nationally, no way! Sayeth Conventional Wisdom such as yours) that conservatives would let Romney sink. They'd "cowboy up" and vote for him, don't worry

They misjudged sentiment RE Romney, and they are misjudging sentiment RE Palin.

90 posted on 01/19/2013 7:49:19 PM PST by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: Strategerist
The DNC goes to sleep at night fantasizing about Palin being the nominee. They'd have a drunken-week long celebration party if she got the nomination.

Wonderful! Let's give them what they want!

Palin/West '16

91 posted on 01/19/2013 7:57:09 PM PST by upsdriver ( Palin/West '16)
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To: sickoflibs

Palin 2016, LOL


92 posted on 01/19/2013 7:57:54 PM PST by sickoflibs (Losing to O is NO principle!)
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To: Blackirish
Yes she has a devoted following here on FR but nationally mo way. Fred Thompson syndrome.

Sarah Palin has a far greater following apart from FR. Most of them have never heard of FR. I'm involved in a number of support Palin organizations. She has a HUGE base of support.

93 posted on 01/19/2013 8:09:15 PM PST by upsdriver ( Palin/West '16)
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To: Bratch
The conservative base can be seen as suffering from a desire to submit to an authoritarian who represents “traditional values”. The underlying theory is that the authoritarian personality has a weak ego unable to manage their id impulses. Alfred Adler proposed an alternative theory that power-over seekers are compensating for a feeling of inferiority, which might explain why Republican leaders are able to manipulate their base by stoking resentment of “liberal elitists”.

What a steaming, stinking load. Anybody on this board suffer from a desire to submit to an authoritarian of ANY sort? Anybody? Show of hands? That's what I thought.

Sarah Jones is a liberal idiot using pseudo psychology to explain away people who want actual freedom. Apparently that is a concept she is not capable of understanding.

94 posted on 01/19/2013 8:14:41 PM PST by Hardastarboard (The Liberal ruling class hates me. The feeling is mutual.)
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To: muawiyah
She sold a state owned airplane ~

I told my wife if she was just reelected, she probably would skip the whole inauguration hoopla and quietly be sworn in at the White House to save money. What an example that would be.

95 posted on 01/19/2013 8:26:09 PM PST by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: Bratch
Also, as I mentioned in my comment, I’m intrigued by the amount of chatter about Governor Palin lately.

Almost as if it is a coordinated effort by certain 'journOlists'.

96 posted on 01/19/2013 8:34:39 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: papertyger
That says nothing about weapons.....

Well.... it doesn't use the word 'weapons', it uses the word 'equipment'.

I notice that other posters on this thread have verified that the ASDF MEMBERS, prior to this 'change' in 2008, DID supply their OWN WEAPONS.

Do you have any 'info' that proves they did not ?

97 posted on 01/19/2013 8:38:46 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: FredZarguna

Your analysis is right on the mark, especially this part that puts everything in perspective:

“In a confrontation with a violent aggressor... who stands more of a chance: an armed citizen, or a disarmed one?”

Can’t you just imagine one of these dipshits being asked this question.....and then unbelievably saying “unarmed”?


98 posted on 01/19/2013 8:58:58 PM PST by Islander2
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To: Bratch

It seemed to me that Sarah handled her rifle quite ably when she killed that large ungulate. But how could I judge; I’m not a liberal kvetcher babe straining a gut to make Gov. Palin look stupid and inept.


99 posted on 01/19/2013 9:09:22 PM PST by Elsiejay
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To: RobertClark

I disagree with her decision too, but she is the CIC of the State Militia and she in no way removed the right for those same people to keep and bear arms as civilians. So to compare her actions to the attempts that will be tried by Obama and the Dems isn’t valid.


100 posted on 01/19/2013 9:42:00 PM PST by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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