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Why “Mental Illness” is the Avenue to Gun Confiscation
political outcast ^ | 1-22-13 | Philip Hodges

Posted on 01/23/2013 5:24:14 AM PST by TurboZamboni

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To: Persevero

Good, educated guess. I’d put money on that.


41 posted on 01/23/2013 11:34:12 AM PST by Carriage Hill (AR-10s/15s are the 21st Century's Muskets. Self-Defense is The First Human Right.)
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To: G Larry
Shrinks will never turn over records to gov’t, precisely because of the chilling effect it would have on potential clients.

You either forgot the sarcasm tag or are ignorant of the fact they turn them over all the time and have all along. This is how involuntary commitments are done, other reasons also.

42 posted on 01/23/2013 12:15:34 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture™)
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To: yldstrk
why anyone would go to a counselor or therapist as opposed to a priest I will never know.

Perhaps because the person is mentally ill and needs the resources of a trained mental health professional? It sounds as though you equate common, everyday mood or behavioral difficulties with mental illness. It's actually a very different thing.

Priests are not trained to deal with mental illness and are specifically directed to refer individuals in need of intervention for professional services (sometimes to Catholic Family and Child Services or to a psychiatric clinic if more serious). Not more than a week ago I read an article -- from Catholic News Service, possibly -- in which a point was made that priests were not to make the confessional into a psychotherapy booth.

43 posted on 01/23/2013 12:29:02 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture™)
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To: fruser1
They won’t have them in the hospital (weapons)

For McLuhan, the medium is the message.

For the MD or nurse, the hospital is the weapon.

44 posted on 01/23/2013 2:06:16 PM PST by imardmd1 (An armed society is a polite society -- but dangerous for the fool --)
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To: TurboZamboni

We also get nothing, nada on the man’s father. I suspect he’s very well connected and lawyered up. The legal profession is far more the enemy of gun rights than doctors will ever be, because lawyers are cowards on power trips. As for the idea that you can sue a doctor for what he puts in your chart, well, you’re talking to a very stupid lawyer if he tells you that.


45 posted on 01/23/2013 2:35:48 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: steve86; TurboZamboni
Priests are not trained to deal with mental illness and are specifically directed to refer individuals in need of intervention for professional services ...

So far here, no one has mentioned or sought to amplify that the recently passed New York law recklessly tramples on the previously sacrosanct ethical area of the knowledge open to your doctor, psychiatrist, priest, or husband/wife which has always been considered a "privileged communication."

This is a very deep and dangerous trespass of an individual's personal right to professional privacy.

This is exactly why the medical professional must take the route of involuntary commitment if his judgment indicates this is the only route to protect both the individual and the community, as well as his/her own reputation when no other choice is open.

This New York law must be judged unconstitutional immediately, and its authors disciplined, as well.

Don't you think this upsets long-held protections for all three unalienable rights: life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness?

46 posted on 01/23/2013 2:41:47 PM PST by imardmd1 (An armed society is a polite society -- but dangerous for the fool --)
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To: TurboZamboni

If you are suffering mental problems enough to seek out drug treatment from a shrink, maybe you should not have guns in the house.

Problem is, some people are very slack about pursuing drugs to supress their (or their children’s) emotional and dysfunctional problems or to lift their mood, rather than employing self improvement strategies. Some shrinks are nothing but pill pushers today...no counseling anymore beyond the entry survey and first meeting to discuss the survey answers and then it is just quick visits to the office to keep the supply of drugs flowing.

Americans are not accostomed to living in a police state. If they don’t keep up, they are going to hurt themselves and their children badly. Medical privacy rights are GONE with the wind of Obamacare!

Everything is political/criminal/advisarial now that doctors are government agents of a socialist police state. Most doctors have been mentally abusive to smokers for a while now but it is going to get worse with denial of service; same with fatties and the elderly or anyone else the nanny state politicans and limo-liberals demonize to show they are in charge of our’s and our children’s bodies and lives (and death).


47 posted on 01/23/2013 4:21:32 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: imardmd1
Don't you think this upsets long-held protections for all three unalienable rights: life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness?

of course it does. but we're in a post-liberty country now.safety of the sheeple trumps freedom,comrade.

48 posted on 01/23/2013 4:51:04 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: steve86

Commitments to WHAT?!?!

The asylums were emptied long ago!


49 posted on 01/23/2013 6:12:04 PM PST by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: steve86

The Doctor’s Office as Union Shop
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2983404/posts

once they’re unionized, they’ll do as they’re told.

Taking guns from Americans and sending F16s to the Muslim Brotherhood.
Obama’s America.


50 posted on 01/30/2013 9:39:15 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: TurboZamboni

While many of the Democrats have joined the Libertarians on the issue of the legalization of marijuana, there is something that they don’t want the public to know, pot smoking puts the user at risk of psychosis. (quote from article by Mitchell S. Rosenthal, psychiatrist, and co-founder of Phoenix House, the nation’s largest non-profit substance-abuse treatment and prevention organization)

The Democrat elite know this and other negative effects of marijuana that are permanent on the immature brain and less so on the mature brain (negative impacts may disappear if the the adult user abstains for 4-8 weeks). They know it and are devising what they call, brain training to ameliorate the damage done by the marijuana. The one impact that they cannot prevent is the risk of psychosis.

There was an article in the WSJ, a few years ago, about how the liberals were encouraging the use of psychotropic drugs, such as anti-depressants and anti-ADHD drugs, for young people. It’s like the Libs would prefer a generation of zombies walking around, voting for the government to fix everything.


51 posted on 01/30/2013 9:52:25 AM PST by Eva
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