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1 posted on 01/28/2013 11:16:57 AM PST by pabianice
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To: pabianice

Got a link for that or at least a reference to which show you saw it on?


2 posted on 01/28/2013 11:18:57 AM PST by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: pabianice

Oh...kinda like:

Own a gun?? = NO Obamacare

Not an Obamacare “member?? = GO TO JAIL

Felony arrest for NOT having Obamacare = NO GUNS ANYMORE FOR YOU!!


3 posted on 01/28/2013 11:19:57 AM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: pabianice

This is actually an executive order. I am sure he thinks he can circumvent the Constitution.

Please. someone stop him!


4 posted on 01/28/2013 11:22:28 AM PST by dforest
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To: pabianice

This is called being a Dick-tator.


7 posted on 01/28/2013 11:29:43 AM PST by mikelets456
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To: pabianice

So we just stop doing business with the “Government.”

FUBO


8 posted on 01/28/2013 11:37:11 AM PST by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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To: pabianice

Barry is going further than that. Sat our next door neighbor was at the Gwinnett County gunshow with a friend. The friend was in the process of buying a gun through a private sale when a Fed came up and told him he had to get a background check. The friend told the Fed that the law does not require a background check for private sales and basically to get lost. One thing led to another and a gwinnett county cop was called over. He told the Fed to take a hike.

But the point is the ATF is sending agents out to try to coerce the public into complying with things that are not required by law.


11 posted on 01/28/2013 12:00:37 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: pabianice

“Obamenace”


12 posted on 01/28/2013 12:05:10 PM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: pabianice

Molon Labe!


14 posted on 01/28/2013 12:08:40 PM PST by nolongerademocrat ("Before you ask G-d for something, first thank G-d for what you already have." B'rachot 30b)
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16 posted on 01/28/2013 12:19:10 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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There is a legal concept called “unconstitutional conditions.” The Supreme Court cases on this have involved the use of highways, telegraph companies and permitting of property use. These have been cases where the state has imposed permit conditions that required the surrender of a constitutionally protected right

“In Southern Pacific Co. V. Denton, 146 U.S. 202, 207, 13 S. Ct. 44, there was under consideration a Texas statute requiring a foreign corporation desiring to do business in the state to agree that it would not remove any suit from a court of the state into the Circuit Court of the United States. This court held the statute invalid, saying:

‘But that statute, requiring the corporation, as a condition precedent to obtaining a permit to do business within the state, to surrender a right and privilege secured to it by the Constitution and laws of the United States, was unconstitutional and void, and could give no validity or effect to any agreement or action of the Corporation in obedience to its provisions.’

See also: Western Union Tel. Co. v. Kansas, 216 U.S. 1, 34-48, 30 S. Ct. 190; Frost v. Railroad Commission of State of California, 271 U.S. 583 (1926,); Pullman Co. v. Kansas, 216 U.S. 56 (30 S. Ct. 232); Western Union Telegraph Co. v. Foster, 247 U.S. 105, 114 (38 S. Ct. 438, 1 A. L. R. 1278).’

There is also the concept of “essential nexus.”

In Dolan v. City of Tigard, No. 93-518 (1994), Chief Justice Rehnquist, delivering the opinion of the Court, further developed the rationale of Nolan in examining the proportionate balance of the regulatory conditions imposed upon use with the severity of the danger or injury the regulations were intended to ameliorate or eliminate:

... “Under the well-settled doctrine of ‘unconstitutional conditions’, the government may not require a person to give up a constitutional right-here the right to receive just compensation when property is taken for a public use-in exchange for a discretionary benefit conferred by the government where the property sought has little or no relationship to the benefit. See Perry v. Sindermann, 408 U. S. 593 (1972); Pickering v. Board of Ed. of Township High School Dist., 391 U. S. 563, 568 (1968).”


18 posted on 01/28/2013 12:38:12 PM PST by marsh2
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To: pabianice
Per Fox, Obama knows he will not get gun control through Congress so he is preparing to order federal agencies to require private citizens to obey his gun control measures as a prerequisite for the public to do business with the government.

Who in their right mind would want to do business with this crony government ?

21 posted on 01/28/2013 1:02:44 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: pabianice

Sen. John F. Kennedy’s statement, Know Your Lawmakers, Guns, April 1960, p. 4 (1960): “By calling attention to ‘a well regulated militia,’ the ‘security’ of the nation, and the right of each citizen ‘to keep and bear arms,’ our founding fathers recognized the essentially civilian nature of our economy. Although it is extremely unlikely that the fears of governmental tyranny which gave rise to the Second Amendment will ever be a major danger to our nation, the Amendment still remains an important declaration of our basic civilian-military relationships, in which every citizen must be ready to participate in the defense of his country. For that reason I believe the Second Amendment will always be important.”

Sen. Hubert Humphrey’s statement, Know Your Lawmakers, Guns, Feb. 1960, p. 4 (1960): “Certainly one of the chief guarantees of freedom under any government, no matter how popular and respected, is the right of citizens to keep and bear arms. This is not to say that firearms should not be very carefully used and that definite safety rules of precaution should not be taught and enforced. But the right of citizens to bear arms is just one more guarantee against arbitrary government, one more safeguard against a tyranny which now appears remote in America, but which historically has proved to be always possible.”

http://www2.law.ucla.edu/volokh/2amteach/sources.htm


23 posted on 01/28/2013 2:15:52 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: pabianice

he is going to have a real challenge find business partners under that scenario.


25 posted on 01/28/2013 4:48:12 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: pabianice

Moronic nonsense, only too typical of our ignorant and benighted excuse for a president, and will be declared unconstitutional and invalidated at the first legal test.


26 posted on 01/28/2013 9:53:48 PM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: pabianice

So can we expect “speech control” next?


27 posted on 01/29/2013 6:09:35 AM PST by rfreedom4u (I have a copy of the Constitution! And I'm not afraid to use it!)
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