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Judge extends ban on lottery payout
upi. ^ | March. 1, 2013

Posted on 03/02/2013 8:42:24 AM PST by JoeProBono

INDIANAPOLIS, - An Indiana judge blocked a lottery payout of $9.5 million, at the center of a dispute among eight hair salon workers who say they have claim to the prize.

The request came from seven co-workers at Lou's Creative Styles in Lawrence, Ind., who contend they should share in prize winnings from a ticket bought by another co-worker, Christiana Shaw, The Indianapolis Star reported Friday.

Marion County, Ind., Superior Judge Heather Welch issued a temporary order prohibiting the payout by the Indiana Lottery Commission last week, and Friday extended it indefinitely.

Shaw told her colleagues the winning ticket she purchased was hers alone, paid for with her own money and not money pooled by the group for ticket-buying. Shaw's attorney, Kent Smith, repeated the claim at a hearing Wednesday, acknowledging his client bought the winning ticket at the same time she bought tickets for the group.

At the hearing, the seven co-workers, and three former employees who participated in the salon's lottery pool, testified each was aware of a "rule" in their system prohibiting the purchaser of the group's tickets to buy personal tickets at the same time.


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1 posted on 03/02/2013 8:42:29 AM PST by JoeProBono
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To: JoeProBono

We read that short disturbing story in high school. I’ve never forgotten it.


2 posted on 03/02/2013 8:51:12 AM PST by June2
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To: June2; JoeProBono

Here it is... for those who have not read it.

http://www.americanliterature.com/author/shirley-jackson/short-story/the-lottery


3 posted on 03/02/2013 9:00:58 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: JoeProBono

A few years back, I operated a Lottery pool among my fellow employees. I ALWAYS delivered to them a copy of the pooled tickets before the drawing.


4 posted on 03/02/2013 9:01:36 AM PST by matthew fuller (Fast and Furious fizzled- Enter Sandy Hook.)
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To: June2

“There are good lotteries and there are bad lotteries but mostly there are bad lotteries”

- anon


5 posted on 03/02/2013 9:02:11 AM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: JoeProBono

When will people learn to sign their names on these group tickets? Less messy and no lawyers getting their cut.


6 posted on 03/02/2013 9:02:21 AM PST by bgill
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To: UCANSEE2

7 posted on 03/02/2013 9:08:16 AM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: JoeProBono

The only thing more stupid than playing the lottery is playing the lottery with people buying tickets as a group....


8 posted on 03/02/2013 9:14:22 AM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: JoeProBono
each was aware of a "rule" in their system prohibiting the purchaser of the group's tickets to buy personal tickets at the same time.

Pay them all. The holder of the winning ticket is stupid and will just be broke again anyway.

9 posted on 03/02/2013 9:16:58 AM PST by Ouderkirk (Obama has turned America into an aristocracy of the unaccomplished.)
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To: matthew fuller
A few years back, I operated a Lottery pool among my fellow employees. I ALWAYS delivered to them a copy of the pooled tickets before the drawing.

I participated in dozens of "pooled" lotteries in my day; Always the purchaser would distribute copies of all the tickets to each individual member before the drawing.

That's not rocket science.Only a truly stupid individual, or one with larceny in their heart would fail to see the propriety and ethical necessity for that.

10 posted on 03/02/2013 9:53:03 AM PST by publius911 (Look for the Unin label, then buy something else.)
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To: publius911
At the hearing, the seven co-workers, and three former employees who participated in the salon's lottery pool, testified each was aware of a "rule" in their system prohibiting the purchaser of the group's tickets to buy personal tickets at the same time.

This part of the story makes no sense, since at the time of the purchase, every ticket is as likely to win as any other.
If the group paid for 50 tickets, and they get copies of them before the drawing, they don't have a legitimate beef.

11 posted on 03/02/2013 9:56:19 AM PST by publius911 (Look for the Unin label, then buy something else.)
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To: publius911
Details are very few. But it APPEARS that the tickets for the group and the claimed purchase for the individual took place the night of the drawing, and the next day the winner stopped by the hair salon to inform everyone that they didn't win, but she did.

There has been no mention on any online source I can find of the group purchase being distributed prior to the draw.

Without any details, it's really hard to say what happened; anyone can make the claim later that there were rules, and drag former friends and coworkers in to say what the rules were then, but really, I don't see how it much matters.

In any event, the winners here are lawyers and the state - not only did they gain the money through the playing of the lottery, they'll gain through taxing of winnings. I'm sure the lottery's position is: we pay who presents the ticket - most advantageous for the seizure of winnings to put into the black hole of state budget.

As for the winner and the group she played with: I don't see how she walks away with the winnings on this without having distributed copies of the tickets ahead of time. I think the eventual ruling will be: She's the sole winner as far as the lottery and taxes are concerned, and then the remaining money will be split between the members of the group, with lawyers scooping up at least 1/3rd of all winnings. A 9 million dollar win becomes a $120,000 payout for each of the members of the group. Life changing money, but far from anyone’s fantasy at this point.

12 posted on 03/02/2013 10:22:59 AM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: JoeProBono

They don't call it the idiot's tax for nothing:

The Treasure of Sierra Madre, The Golden Curse

CAUTION: The YouTube link starts with a Michelle Obama, "Let's Move," commercial (at least when I opened it) but you can skip it right away. Hopefully, google is just targeting me with the Obama stuff but, just in case, a caution is in order.
13 posted on 03/02/2013 10:58:01 AM PST by wizkid
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To: June2

I’ve never forgotten that short story. I had to reread it to make sure I got it.


14 posted on 03/02/2013 12:02:07 PM PST by appleton14
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