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To: Flag_This
To believe man was responsible you would have to believe that small groups of hunter-gatherers in N. America were responsible for the destruction of mammoths, mastodons, giant bison, horses, camels, harrington's mt. goat, american cheetahs, american lions, american mt. deer, short-faced bears, smilodons, the giant cave bear, the woodland muskox, the giant ground sloths, dire wolves, the Stag-moose, the giant armadillo, and on and on and on... The extinction list is way too long and diverse (including birds and reptiles) to simply tack it onto the butcher's bill of humans.

If by small numbers you mean 100s of thousands to millions of the people than yeah they could have easily drove those animals extinct.

About 3 million years ago, Panama arose out the sea and connected previously separated North & South America. This allowed the Saber tooth tiger to enter South America where they immediately reeked havoc and drove pretty all of South America's Ungulates, marsupials and large predators like Terror Birds extinct.

Now if small numbers of saber tooth tigers acting individually can drive a large number of animals extinct then it's not much of a stretch to see groups of humans who compared to Saber tooths are much more efficient and diverse hunters doing the same.

Especially considering one of early man's hunting strategies was to cause stampedes and drive whole herds of animals right off the sides of cliffs.

28 posted on 03/11/2013 6:27:01 PM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: qam1
"If by small numbers you mean 100s of thousands to millions of the people than yeah they could have easily drove those animals extinct."

Except there is zero evidence that the human population density in N. America was anything like that high 12,000 years ago.

"This allowed the Saber tooth tiger to enter South America where they immediately reeked havoc and drove pretty all of South America's Ungulates, marsupials and large predators like Terror Birds extinct."

Well, that's one theory, anyway; but it's in direct contrast to another theory that holds that smilodon died out because they were too specialized in their prey and became extinct when that prey died out. They may have thrown off those feeding inhibitions once they went south...

"considering one of early man's hunting strategies was to cause stampedes and drive whole herds of animals right off the sides of cliffs."

They were still using that trick with buffalo when the Europeans arrived, and yet, the buffalo herds stretched from horizon to horizon and reportedly would take days to pass by, despite having been "over hunted" for thousands of years.

30 posted on 03/11/2013 9:58:28 PM PDT by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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