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To: Cyber Liberty
Oh boy, this will be a long conversation and I'm tot sure I have the time right now to address this and continue it....but here goes...

You have a God-given right to self-defense, but not to murder

I agree 100% But self defense, even if you have to KILL to do it, in and of it self is not murder, yes?

Dangerous instruments need to be kept away from people proved insane enough to murder by their own actions.

I don't disagree with you at all but my problem is how do you set the criteria of who is "insane"

I agree that to you and me could decide because you and me would use "common sense" The problem is what you and I consider "common sense" is subjective. Both of us know that "common sense" is not so common these days. Yeah, I know, It can go round and round, but that is kind of the point. What used to be common sense before is now promoted as extreme.

The case of a felon, that's not the only right that's stripped...in most states he can't vote either.

Actually that is not true. In most States a felon cannot vote if he/she is under the constrains of parole or other obligations of said conviction. Denial of 2nd Amendment right is for all intents and purpose for life time....same with misdemeanor convictions of "domestic violence". Does that lifetime punishment not violate the 5th and 6th Amendments?

In many cases, after a period of time (like 10 years), the felon can petition a Judge to have the Felony expunged and his civil rights restored.

Never happen in a million years unless you have tons of money and the proper connection. What politician would ever take the chance of restoring a felons rights lest it go bad...without the proper payout/payment/connection that is.

I really hate that. Judges and Commissioners hand those ROs out like candy to any woman who asks, regardless of the circumstances.

I do too, but it really cuts to the heart of the matter. We can see how easy it is to abuse these law that are put in effect for "common sense" Grrrrr, it is either a right or it is not.

My answer is to amend the Constitution within the provisions that are put in place to do so.

In my view if it is not done that way then the Constitution is meaningless.

53 posted on 04/07/2013 3:43:14 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

I can’t disagree with you.


55 posted on 04/07/2013 3:47:26 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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