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There Really Is A Stigma Against The Long-Term Unemployed
Business Insider ^ | 04/16/2013 | Vivian Giang

Posted on 04/16/2013 7:05:13 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: Mr. Jeeves
Greatly informative post.

Jim is almost ready to apply for a job at Home Depot, but he feels like a complete failure.

I can identify w/ that -- I'm 30, been underemployed (avg of about 18 hrs/mo) for a year now, and it seems that the companies just aren't interested.

121 posted on 04/16/2013 10:54:48 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

“Hm, do you have any advice for us “young `uns” who’re basically being shit on, entry-level jobs requiring “X years of experience”?’


We all bring different things to the table but there are some commonalities that IMO are helpful.

I too started out at the bottom while getting my education, which to be honest only gets you in the door, and made sure my boss knew it when I said I would do something or would show up on time.

That is the most basic start. You have to be trusted and dependable. When the boss wants something done he/she will turn to you not an untrustworthy coworker.

If you bring value to the table, you will not be at the entry level for long and if you are, that is not the company for you, move on.

After that, it is a function of skills and the needs of your chosen industry for those skills. If you don’t have them, you better learn quick and never stop learning.

All viable industries innovate and improve and if you don’t get out in front of the curve you will be left behind. IMO it is also fun and self rewarding to learn so this should be viewed as something you do for yourself more so that your company.

Also, don’t overlook going off on your own. If you are the type to please your customers in a timely fashion you will do well and you only have to deal with the customers not some HR person or a boss who is only there because he has always been there. There are huge benefits to working for yourself but you better be prepared to be disciplined and work at building your business everyday. Consulting in my chosen field yielded 2 years of income much greater than I ever earned working for someone else. Only the travel which I decided was too much put an end to my business. In this economy, I would give it some serious thought. My start up costs were a computer and internet access and you seem to already have those.


122 posted on 04/16/2013 11:13:15 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam!)
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To: OneWingedShark
Hm, do you have any advice for us "young `uns" who're basically being shit on, entry-level jobs requiring "X years of experience"?

Be willing to take an undesirable job, for low pay to get some experience that you can sell to future positions.

I went to work Yemen in the oil patch early in my career. When I begged for the chance to go with little increase in pay, the more experienced guys on my team were angry with me. They wanted everyone to hold out for higher pay. My point was, if they had to pay a lot, they wouldn't send a youngster like me.

In my opinion, I got 5 years of experience in 14 months. At least it felt like 5 years in that miserable desert.

123 posted on 04/16/2013 12:05:38 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Mr. Jeeves; Servant of the Cross

Mr J: I rarely take time to read the long posts on FR, or anywhere else, but that was very well done, and I find little if anything to quibble about. I would only add that while the private sector was over-employing as you say, the government sector was growing just as fast or faster - and they have not been forced to face their reckoning yet - meaning the pinch on the private sector is even greater than it had to be.

Lot of wisdom in those words, not to mention pain.


124 posted on 04/16/2013 12:07:46 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: thackney; OneWingedShark
Let's see. As near as I can recall, I've held the following “entry-level” jobs during my life:

1. Potato peeler
2. Paper boy
3. Lawn boy
4. Farm hand
5. Garbage man
6. Warehouseman
7. Private (USMC, retired)

Each provided valuable experience.

125 posted on 04/16/2013 12:13:16 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: Mr. Lucky
I have a couple of those and even drove the honey wagon occasionally as part of a campground maintenance job.
126 posted on 04/16/2013 12:15:55 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney

Well, sir, that would explain your fascination with gas.


127 posted on 04/16/2013 12:24:27 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: Mr. Lucky

128 posted on 04/16/2013 12:25:24 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

You should make this post its own thread topic.


129 posted on 04/16/2013 2:14:47 PM PDT by Valpal1
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To: dfwgator

******* “Always easier to find a job, when you already have one.” ********

Heck yeah, and if you want one... that’s just icing on the cake.

TT


130 posted on 04/16/2013 3:56:43 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (Idiocracy used to just be a Movie... Live every day as your last...one day you will be right)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

BUMP

(This happens in the Military as well)

TT


131 posted on 04/16/2013 4:07:57 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (Idiocracy used to just be a Movie... Live every day as your last...one day you will be right)
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