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To: MHGinTN; marron; TXnMA; Alamo-Girl; Kevmo; stfassisi; xzins; YHAOS
Not only is all made of the same stuff, all the stuff is quantumly linked to a single origin of it all. I believe the Bible reinforces your notion of everything being made of light and intelligence. I would put it slightly differently however, as all is composed of light and information. The Word of God, the Command From God is information.

Agreed, dear brother!

With a teensy qualification: Thinking it through, Information would be (like Light) a proximate cause, but it seems to me not the sufficient cause (which would be their common Origin). For it seems to me Intelligence must be prior to information. IOW, information itself must have a cause, just as Light must have a cause.

IOW, Light and Information are both God's creatures, dependent on His Intelligence and Will. (Thus I amend my first statement.)

If that makes any sense at all....

What a fascinating subject! Thank you dear brother for sharing your insights!

144 posted on 05/11/2013 5:24:35 PM PDT by betty boop (We are led to believe a lie when we see with, and not through the eye. — William Blake)
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To: betty boop; MHGinTN; marron; TXnMA; Alamo-Girl; stfassisi; xzins; YHAOS

Thanks for the ping on this fascinating topic, sister in Christ!

For it seems to me Intelligence must be prior to information. IOW, information itself must have a cause, just as Light must have a cause.
***I look at it as a building project that God generated. Just as an architect would have the information for a building in his head in terms of how many walls, how many electrical outlets, how many exits, how many windows, etc. He puts that information down and then the builders build to it. From the perspective of an observer, the activity proceeds according to a plan. But that observer would never see the plan, only the outcome of it. The information existed before this little mini-universe ever got started.

In a similar fashion, the Master Architect spoke the heavens into place according to His plan. He knew from the beginning that spiral galaxies needed to spin a certain way and that it would baffle modern scientists so much that they would need to postulate the existence of dark matter. The INFORMation of the galaxy existed before those galaxies ever began to spin. The information is an aspect of creation that is outside of TIME. Some information is independent of time.


On a separate note, it’s interesting to see you and Alamo Girl on a topic such as this. I have such high doubts that ‘aliens’ were involved that I consider it an impossibility. This is basic cold war military oneupmanship. The US had some secret capability, tested it first on our own nuke sites and then tested it on Soviet sites. They used an alien back story to frustrate any real investigation.

Such a theory obeys Ockham’s Razor, especially contrasted to the gigantic hurdles that interstellar travel presents, and that such a civilization would even find us remotely interesting — talk about an inflated self view!


145 posted on 05/12/2013 3:46:12 AM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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