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What really happened to boys?
American Thinker ^ | April 28, 2013 | Bruce Deitrick Price

Posted on 05/07/2013 12:47:29 PM PDT by BruceDeitrickPrice

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To: TwelveOfTwenty

You know, I’m thankful every day that I had a daughter. Because if I had a son instead the best advice I could have given him at 18 would be to get a vasectomy. The whole risk/reward equation no longer pencils out. As a divorced father (no former) smoker, home owner with a day job, I know a thing or two about being a political red-headed step child. Didn’t take long for me to figure out that I and men like me have zero friends in any branch, any level in either party of government. More are figuring it out. A lot of men are refusing to marry and have kids. That stagnant birth rate is a lot of young men just going Galt in their own way.


101 posted on 05/07/2013 4:43:58 PM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty
Are you saying men should just cave in to everything that is done to their sons, on the assumption that they can't do anything about it anyway because women make up the majority of the voters?

What I'm saying is "men" can do nothing to improve their standing so long as other men act as useful idiots enforcing the dictates of the female majority.

102 posted on 05/07/2013 4:44:50 PM PDT by papertyger (Blessed are the flexible for they shall not be broken....)
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To: papertyger
Please. That's nothing but an excuse. There is the Equal Protection Act, which has been used by men to eliminate laws like alimony for women only. The problem is, these stands are few and far between. Why is that?

I think we know why.

103 posted on 05/07/2013 5:02:53 PM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (Ho, ho, hey, hey, I'm BUYcotting Chick-Fil-A)
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To: Orangedog
Didn’t take long for me to figure out that I and men like me have zero friends in any branch, any level in either party of government.

Part of the problem men have failed to form a united voting block. Instead, they have allowed themselves to be divided and pandered to. The result is that the politicians who pander to their particular group to get their votes also pander to women at their expense to get the female vote.

Until men form a united voting block that makes politicians pay with their jobs for discriminating against them, they will continue to have zero friends in government.

104 posted on 05/07/2013 5:02:57 PM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (Ho, ho, hey, hey, I'm BUYcotting Chick-Fil-A)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty

I don’t think that would make much difference.

It’s quite possible the gay/metro-sexuals outnumber the straight traditional faction.


105 posted on 05/07/2013 5:07:37 PM PDT by Bratch
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To: Bratch

Basically, you’re saying it won’t make a difference because it won’t happen. I’m afraid I agree.


106 posted on 05/07/2013 5:08:56 PM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (Ho, ho, hey, hey, I'm BUYcotting Chick-Fil-A)
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To: BruceDeitrickPrice

Clearly, America has become a nation of weenies such that being a boy these days is considered either immoral or illegal or both.

That’s what happened.


107 posted on 05/07/2013 5:20:46 PM PDT by Jack Hammer (American)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty

Really? You expect to be taken seriously by appealing to the very subculture promulgating the injustice?

Alimony? Please!

When child support becomes something other than unregulated cash payments to an ex-wife, you might get some traction with those. other than the useful idiots.


108 posted on 05/07/2013 5:31:32 PM PDT by papertyger (Blessed are the flexible for they shall not be broken....)
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To: MeganC

agree.


109 posted on 05/07/2013 5:34:44 PM PDT by krunkygirl (force multiplier in effect...)
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To: Orangedog

interesting point.


110 posted on 05/07/2013 5:58:00 PM PDT by krunkygirl (force multiplier in effect...)
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To: rlmorel

Well-stated.


111 posted on 05/07/2013 6:18:23 PM PDT by WeatherGuy
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“No way, kid - you’ll shoot your eye out.....”


112 posted on 05/07/2013 6:19:53 PM PDT by Castlebar
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To: BruceDeitrickPrice

What happened?

It didn’t “happen” it was “done to them”.

They are not ALLOWED to be boys.

If they engage in any age appropriate male behavior at any stage of their life they are punished, banished, drugged, suppressed.

And if when they become men, they happen to act like men in front of the wrong female they may find themselves charged with any number of imagined offenses - some of which may lead to legal trouble.

So can we really blame boys for turning out like they do?


113 posted on 05/07/2013 6:34:06 PM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: GraceG
"...and certain estrogen mimicers.

It's from feeding human males soybeans. You heard it here first.

114 posted on 05/07/2013 6:38:22 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: illiac

“my favorite toys were a stick”

You had a STICK?

In my day we only dreamed about having a stick.

You must have been one of those rich kids I heard about.


115 posted on 05/07/2013 6:46:03 PM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: BruceDeitrickPrice
In the past 25 or so years the schools have changed. What started out in a good direction in the early 1970's when high schools split to a VOC/TECH or College Prep curriculum. Then came the Testing contest rather than the best education in the students best interest and individual aptitude. The Testing Scores Contest oligarchy won out. This was mainly done to try and make all students ready for college. It was a waste of time and money.

Don't get me wrong. If college Prep students want to compete in testing scores basically aimed for college admissions more power to them. However forcing that aspect onto the VOC/TECH students is as wrong as forcing college Prep students to take Voc/Tech test as a standard that has to be met to graduate. Of course funding is the whole driving force behind Test Scores.

There is no reason beginning in a high school freshman year the curriculum can't be decided and a maximizing of course suited to the direction the student chooses. At that point class time should be 50/50. 50% regular class and 50% VOC TECH with each year dropping a regular class and increasing it in Voc/Tech. Senior year should be 100% VOC/Tech and Co-Op encouraged. My senior year I was working a 44 hour week job during school hours & making money.

In my early 1970's high school years for Voc/Tech students were only required to take basic Math course, basic Science, basic English, and basic History. Teachers were preparing us for the workforce after high school. For functionality I'll put my basic courses education up against college prep high school of today.

As for other aspects? I lacked the abilities for sports and my dad realized it early on. He found what I did like and built on it. How many kids even in the 1970's were capable of spending a month or more camping out alone with boat and motor? I cooked my own meals, set up my own camp, and was basically left to do for myself except food was brought in every few days. That was the way my dad grew up in the 1930's and 40's and he made sure I got to experience the same.

In these times the opportunities I had as a teenager are gone. I was reasonably safe camping and did have a rifle for just in case. Today a teenager camping out alone is prime bait for attracting predators of the two legged variety.

116 posted on 05/07/2013 7:26:44 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: BruceDeitrickPrice

Well, I saw a bunch of great boys this evening at my son’s Little League Game. It’s true, they all play electronic games, but they get out there and do the real thing also. Why? I think it’s because there are FATHERS involved who pass on the love of the game and spend time teaching and training them.

Also, I find that my boy will do old fashioned boy stuff if there is some wild space around and some fellow conspirators. He and his buddies do a lot of sword play and capturing each others’ forts, given the opportunity. But it is not often that you get 6-10 of them together at once with a couple of hours to kill.


117 posted on 05/07/2013 10:21:44 PM PDT by married21
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To: WeatherGuy

LOL...you could tell this made me angry in my posting...I am sure every parent out there is rolling their eyes going ‘yeah, bribery is going to work to keep a boy from watching television” and their eye rolling would be well deserved.

I don’t think I would ban a kid from watching, but I would try to be sure they aren’t just a skull full of mush taking it all in as the gospel truth...:)


118 posted on 05/08/2013 12:58:06 AM PDT by rlmorel ("We'll drink to good health for them that have it coming." Boss Spearman in Open Range)
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To: muir_redwoods

63 years old huh?

Welcome to the club of undomesticated males. Back in our day being called a “sissy” was a good reason to knock the snot out of the ass who said it.

Now, the majority of males coming from the past 2 generations have been politically and emotionally castrated by masculine man hating women.

In today’s age anything that comes natural to a “real” male is taken as animalistic behavior and must be cured by either counseling or some other physiological treatment or drug.

With all of that said, no wonder we find ourselves in this world of gun confiscation attempts. Women fear the cold steel of guns (not knives) and the males of today are right with them and think just as illogically as their mothers.

It’s a sad, sad world we now live in.


119 posted on 05/08/2013 3:32:43 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: muir_redwoods

Every item you listed here, I too did the same. We also put firecrackers in corncobs and threw them at each other. It ain’t estrogen in the water; it is feminized education, the stifling of male behavior, ridiculing masculinity, the blatant favortism shown for females (don’t get me wrong, they all deserve an equal chance), and now—the homosexualization of males—homowood and the old media play a major role here.

We grew up in a good time—things were different and seriously better. Our kids future is in serious trouble and getting worse. The nutjob politicians seek every means of control and ever newer methods to extract money from the working class to buy the votes of those who sit in a cesspool of dependence.


120 posted on 05/08/2013 6:38:36 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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