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To: DJ MacWoW
We don't have Disney farms around here. We have working dairy farms and apparently they know more about keeping equipment clean than you do.

Excuse me, where did I even once mention equipment? All dairies have to sanitize their equipment--as I have already pointed out, food safety laws and regulations cover every aspect of food production--meaning that they regulate the milking equipment, as well.

Properly sanitized equipment isn't the issue. The cows are the issue. It would not matter if the equipment were taken apart and sterilized between every cow--that still would not make the milk of a cow infected with hoof and mouth, brucellosis, rabies, tuberculosis, E. coli O157:H7, etc., safe to drink. That's because the pathogens come from the cow, not the equipment. The cow doesn't even have to be sick to pass those pathogens into the milk. Furthermore, as I have already pointed out, animals are dirty. I have yet to see a cow that will refuse to drink or wade in water contaminated by urine and feces, or refuse to graze in a field equally contaminated. Nor have I seen a cow apply DEET to itself to keep disease-causing mosquitoes and flies from biting.

Sorry but you're a naive idiot. You have no idea what your buddies in government allow in your food while still calling it "clean". Stop reading liberal, pro-government crap and get some truth. YOU live in Disneyland and think that government gives a crap what you eat.

Wow. Isn't it obvious by now that I'm actually familiar with the laws and regulations I keep referring to? And that I have studied microbiology and food safety practices? I read scientific literature all the time, and monitor the CDC (and the FDA, to a lesser extent). Your dismissal of actual scientific evidence tells me a lot about the kind of websites you frequent and your lack of critical thinking skills. In the matter of food safety, the government doesn't just invent rules and impose them--scientists (like myself) using the most up-to-date research-based information tell the government what the rules should be. And we scientists are *not* a bunch of ranting liberals--we're far too intelligent and logical for that. In fact, you act more like a liberal than I do, with your illogic and invented stories.

In compliance with law, the major pickle plant had dead squirrels, birds and other detritus floating in the vats. They skim off the dead animals and bottle them. Dan will not touch pickles anymore. Grow up.

Really? If you're going to make the ridiculous claim that food safety regulations allow dead animals to be in the pickle vats, you'd better come up with a reference for that. Hint: food safety laws are available on the internet. I'll take the reference in the form of the citation of a specific local, state, or federal regulation, with full section number, or a direct link to the regulation. Another hint: if you want to make an outrageous claim on the internet, it is *extremely* easy to fact-check. Here is a link to a pickle factory website, with video. Note that the workers all wear hair nets, gloves, and white t-shirts. Notice how all of the equipment and the factory building are made of hard surfaces that are amenable to sterilization between batch runs. I'll bet that every process in the factory is temperature-monitored, that hard-copy temperature records are maintained, and that they randomly sample the product to make sure their processes are adequately killing bacteria.

Don't bother answering unless you fact-check yourself first. Because if you don't fact-check, I will. And I will post verifiable facts to counter your ridiculous stories.

63 posted on 06/27/2013 4:01:45 AM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: exDemMom

You really are naive.


65 posted on 06/27/2013 6:27:13 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (My faith and politics cannot be separated)
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