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I blame white liberals for destroying the black education system which before intergration had order, discipline, respect and an expectation of success. That is what my mom told me when she attended an all black school in Memphis back in the 50s.


4 posted on 07/01/2013 4:01:37 AM PDT by RginTN
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I blame white liberals for destroying the black education system which before intergration had order, discipline, respect and an expectation of success. That is what my mom told me when she attended an all black school in Memphis back in the 50s.

I went to integrated public schools in Philadelphia in the 50's, early 60's, before forced integration. My elementary school and high school were of basically the same socioeconomic group (both black and white) and there was no racial distinction nor racial problems.

We all got the same education and the behavior standards were the same for all.

My junior high, because of the city drawn boundaries, had middle class white kids (we were not rich by any stretch) and a lower class of blacks. The school fed 2 different high schools. There there were some incidents.

What I think I am trying to say is kids did better when they were of the same socioeconomic group and the only difference was skin color. We ignored the skin color since in every other way we were all alike.

11 posted on 07/01/2013 4:27:22 AM PDT by Abby4116
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I blame white liberals for destroying the black education system ...
Surely you jest. No black liberals had a thing to do with the demise not only of the education system, but all of "black america?"
26 posted on 07/01/2013 4:51:42 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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The real problem is American (Democrat Plantation) black culture. Black schools in the parts of Africa in which I have lived and worked are disciplined, the students polite and respectful and eager to learn.

Perhaps one major reason for this is that their parents usually had to come up with school fees and the money to purchase school uniforms. I do not recall ever seeing a school where the students did not wear uniforms. This included schools where the students and their parents often wore goatskins or less outside of school.

I was once treated by a black African doctor in Nairobi. He was a Kenyan but had been living & working in London, doing kidney transplants. I commented on his graciousness in leaving all that to work in a clinic in Nairobi. He responded that it was harder on his wife, and especially his children. They had been born in England and were essentially English schoolchildren, but with dark skin.

We were both doing “humanitarian” work and talked about that for awhile. Finally I said, “When I get totally fed up with the bureaucracy, the tribal fighting and the abysmal state of public utilities, I can always go home, having done my nobles oblige thing. You, however, have worked your way up and out of here, yet you gave up the prestige and affluence of doing some of the most skilled surgical work on earth.”

I was not pandering; this man truly amazed me. He replied, “My mother is illiterate. She worked very hard as a cleaning lady to earn enough to pay my school fees through primary school. I came back because I owe it to her and her sacrifices to pay back a little to my people.”

It is very unfortunate that “Africa-American students” are not more like true African students. My children grew up in the tribe. We returned home on furlough and they began attending a majority black school in a Southern state. My son was the only white boy in his class.

One day after he had told my wife about an incident at school, she asked him, “Don’t they respect you?”

“No ma’am, They don’t respect me, they don’t respect the teacher, they don’t respect each other. Someone needs to put them on a plane and send them to African where they can learn some manners.”

He was 10 years old at the time, without a racist bone in his body. (In college, he was made an honorary member of the African students association. Real African students, not “African-American” students.

Most, if not all, of my African friends living in the US have feelings of disgust or even contempt for African-American attitudes. Especially when the Africa-Americans complain about “poverty”.

The problem is not race, but culture. Liberals, not slavery, segregation or racism, are responsible for the creation and continuation of this septic situation.


31 posted on 07/01/2013 5:01:54 AM PDT by BwanaNdege ("To learn who rules over you simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize"- Voltaire)
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bingo.


32 posted on 07/01/2013 5:03:01 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (In te, Domine, speravi: non confundar in aeternum.)
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To: RginTN
I blame white liberals for destroying the black education system which before intergration had order, discipline, respect and an expectation of success. That is what my mom told me when she attended an all black school in Memphis back in the 50s.

I worked with an African American woman who one day explained her experience coming from a nearly 100% African American school in a rural area of the south to a similar high school in Boston. She was shocked by the behavior of the students in Boston, and their lack of discipline. The type of behavior described in the article is a hallmark of urban schools, not African American students or schools per se.

A major portion of the blame for the situation falls on the schools who let that culture grow in their classrooms.

50 posted on 07/01/2013 5:58:16 AM PDT by freeandfreezing
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I think that what your mom told you is true for a great many communities. The tragedy is that the cult of "Diversity", serves the interest of no group. It undermines the ability of each group to deal with problems in a realistic way. Does any of this make much sense?

William Flax

131 posted on 07/01/2013 1:03:45 PM PDT by Ohioan
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Chairman for a local Native American tribe told us the following in a business meeting:

“Worst thing the white man ever did to the red was give him money for being red. It killed us. I have enough jobs for every one of the 950 members in the reservation, but I can’t get 700 of them to take any job at all.”

Liberalism is slavery, which is pretty Orwellian upon reflection.


138 posted on 07/01/2013 1:41:45 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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Yeah, the liberals sometimes remind me of the old Looney Tunes character, you know the one who says “I’m going to hug him, and squeeze him, and call him ‘George’”. They decided that they needed to protect blacks from racism, which was nice of them, I suppose, but then they decided that some things which are actually good and necessary are “racist”. They’ve ended up protecting blacks from the formula for success.


149 posted on 07/01/2013 3:59:27 PM PDT by Boogieman
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