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Went to the mail box and was aggressed by new neighbors Pit Bull (Freeper opinions requested)

Posted on 08/07/2013 6:37:18 PM PDT by RoosterRedux

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To: oldenuff2no

There’s enough studies, numbers and charts on the internet for me to match you one on one all night long.I don’t think that is really what is important here. I have real world hands on experience with this particular breed of dog. Do you? Most of the hype on Pits is media induced just as you’re trying to do.


221 posted on 08/07/2013 10:29:41 PM PDT by jy8z (When push comes disguised as nudge, I do not budge.)
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To: 43north

Do you like killing dogs?


222 posted on 08/07/2013 10:33:43 PM PDT by jy8z (When push comes disguised as nudge, I do not budge.)
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To: jy8z

That’s a stupid question.

I love my 3 dogs and my 3 cats but I would not hesitate to kill a pit bull.


223 posted on 08/07/2013 10:38:58 PM PDT by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED)
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To: RoosterRedux

I would talk to the neighbor and see if he will restrain his dog. Does the dog always run loose, or was this kind of a fluke thing? My Jack Russell used to get loose all the time when he was younger. He was literally like Houdini. My Jack Russell was neutered, but if this dog is not neutered, it could explain aggression too. If this was an accidental thing, the neighbor will likely promise to restrain his dog better. If he just lets it run loose, still talk to him. I’d talk to him before you call animal control. Animal control getting involved could lead to problems for him and his dog and give you an unhappy neighbor. If it continues after you talk to him, then you can talk to animal control.


224 posted on 08/07/2013 10:45:50 PM PDT by Pinkbell
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To: RoosterRedux

Keep your cats in until you get this resolved (if you possibly can). An aggressive dog is fairly likely to take out a cat if the cat wanders close enough.


225 posted on 08/07/2013 10:46:28 PM PDT by Hetty_Fauxvert (FUBO, and the useful idiots you rode in on!)
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To: 43north

Ahem...a Pit Bull is a dog. You said you love dogs. And yet you suggested a way to make a different dog’s death look natural. Another low life method of dealing with what one can’t understand.


226 posted on 08/07/2013 10:48:33 PM PDT by jy8z (When push comes disguised as nudge, I do not budge.)
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To: DocRock

“...or letting her play with the dog when it was being fed.”

I was always fearful of that. (Or a treat, favorite toy, etc.) Our current dog started eating with us putting down the dish and waiting for an “okay” before it starts eating. Same with treats, etc. Can even leave the room and come back with him looking down the hall waiting for word or a nod.

And once started eating, take the bowl away and then he would wait again. Part of it is showing them who is boss they say.

Once in awhile if I’m being goofy I shove my head in his dish and pretend to eat. He’s a large mutt, and has never shown any aggression towards us. But I still get worried when little kids are over and if they happen to pull on the wrong part of him. So far so good - with lots of abuse from the little girl from across the street that comes over to play with him.


227 posted on 08/07/2013 10:59:11 PM PDT by 21twelve ("We've got the guns, and we got the numbers" adapted and revised from Jim M.)
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To: kabumpo

Yeah, ALL pitbulls are absolutely wholly prejudiced against cats and want to kill them all.

Or is it YOU with the wholly mindless HATE towards one of the most noble, honorable and trustworthy breeds ever devised?

228 posted on 08/07/2013 11:07:01 PM PDT by Don W (Know what you WANT. Know what you NEED. Know the DIFFERENCE!)
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To: Hetty_Fauxvert

After reading through this thread ... I don’t know what the *right* thing to do is. I think I would attempt to talk to the neighbors in a friendly way first (bearing homemade cookies for the neighbors and dog cookies for the pooch), and then see how it went from there. But that’s me.

I do have one more comment about the cats. You might as well start turning them into indoor cats right now. If it turns out in the future that something permanent must be done about the pit, the neighbors will never, ever forgive you, and your pets will become a target.

We have turned several outdoor-only cats into indoor-only cats over the years. I know others may have had problems with this, but not one of our “conversions” ever gave us any trouble. I think cats are basically lazy and enjoy the “high life” if it involves lots and lots of petting and treats. ;o)

Best of luck!! (And for goodness sake, keep your mom out of the front yard. I probably don’t even need to say that. If she is tottery on her feet, she will look like a Walking Lunch to an aggressive dog.)


229 posted on 08/07/2013 11:10:16 PM PDT by Hetty_Fauxvert (FUBO, and the useful idiots you rode in on!)
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To: Don W

They are killers with a hair trigger personality. Numbers don’t lie.


230 posted on 08/07/2013 11:11:26 PM PDT by sunrise_sunset
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To: RoosterRedux

Talk to the owner, not as a conversation, but tell him it is unacceptable and can’t happen again. Document everything and that includes contacting the cops and animal control. You may have to take more extreme actions in duress and you wanted your bases covered.


231 posted on 08/07/2013 11:13:47 PM PDT by sunrise_sunset
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To: RoosterRedux

Animal Control Officer.

And a chat with the police department desk wouldn’t hurt.


232 posted on 08/07/2013 11:23:33 PM PDT by Jack Hammer (American)
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To: RoosterRedux
My neighbor's dog tried something similar, did the whole growling and snarling bit, upper lip peeled back, head low, ears back. I chewed it out as only an oilfield hand of 30 years can, assumed an aggressive posture and told it to go home before I kicked its a$$. (this version sanitized to prevent being pulled). I have two fists and a heavy pair of steel toed workboots, and I was in a bad mood to boot. The dog backed down and never approached me again.

Fine for a temporary fix, but my wife had observed the dog doing the same intimidation act with others, sometimes well past his property line. It's one thing for a dog to be territorial about their own territory, but you can't let them be territorial about yours or common areas.

The neighbor was informed of the behaviour, and the possible liability from the dog injuring someone's child and was removed from the property by the owner to a farmstead they had.

Inform your neighbor that their dog is asserting aggressive territorial behaviour well beyond their property line, and that that could lead to huge liability problems if the dog actually attacks someone. If they won't take care of it, inform the authorities.

233 posted on 08/07/2013 11:26:39 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: jy8z

What is it about documented pit bull attacks that bothers you?


234 posted on 08/07/2013 11:31:58 PM PDT by ransomnote
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To: jy8z

I followed your link. It does nothing to rebut the documented pit bull attacks I mentioned. Nothing to refute the statistics. When you can address the overwhelming evidence that drives home owners insurance companies to deny coverage to homeowners who own pit bulls or pit bull related breeds, I’ll reconsider.


235 posted on 08/07/2013 11:34:16 PM PDT by ransomnote
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To: Former MSM Viewer
There is a true story of a pit bull who was a genuine war hero who ‘served’ with troops in WWI, receiving citations from Pershing and even captured a German soldier by himself.

Sgt. Stubby the dog


Sergeant Stubby

236 posted on 08/07/2013 11:41:10 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: 43north
...but I would not hesitate to kill a pit bull.

Amen, 43! If a pit, or any other dog for that matter, attacked me, two things are likely...a) I'm carrying, so not too hard to figure that one out, and b) I'm quite well off, have lots of lawyer friends, and would spend whatever amount it would take to put you and your family in dire financial straights for a very long time....to the point where the only dog food you'll be buying...will be the cans you're having for supper.

I suggest you ponder long and hard on that for a while, those of you who think it's cool to own a dangerous breed.

237 posted on 08/07/2013 11:41:21 PM PDT by Scooter100
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To: ransomnote

I mentioned earlier in the thread that I cancelled theft coverage on my homeowners policy because of my Pit Bulls. And that was with the insurance company’s blessing. They did not deny me any other coverage. What are you talking about?


238 posted on 08/07/2013 11:44:04 PM PDT by jy8z (When push comes disguised as nudge, I do not budge.)
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To: Scooter100

oops.....”dire financial straits”


239 posted on 08/07/2013 11:44:53 PM PDT by Scooter100
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To: djf
But they soon grow, and when they do, in their own minds they are WOLVES, not dogs!!

If the owner asserts themselves as the alpha male, and suffers no challenges, they can keep things in line.

If not, that's bad news for the owner and the dog/wolf/wolf cross.

Not all owners are anywhere close enough to having the savvy to be the boss of their pack, and the critter has to realize it is a member of the pack, not the boss. That means the owner has to be the authority figure in the family, too. Most problems arise from dominance squabbles, but the Alpha Male and/or alpha female lays down the law.

240 posted on 08/07/2013 11:48:33 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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