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Co-sleeping and a battle for the bed - Older children, even teens, are crowding their parents’ bed.
Maclean's ^ | August 13, 2013 | Cathy Gulli

Posted on 08/16/2013 3:50:38 AM PDT by rickmichaels

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1 posted on 08/16/2013 3:50:38 AM PDT by rickmichaels
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It’s going to take a loooong time to turn this mess around.


2 posted on 08/16/2013 3:56:46 AM PDT by Third Person (Welcome to Gaymerica.)
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To: rickmichaels

Culture’s a big part of this too. Here in India, it’s common for families to share a bed, even with older children. This may in part also be due to a lack of available bedrooms, as some houses here are quite small. As I recall, co-sleeping was part of what got that family in Norway in trouble, that the parents were co-sleeping with their kids and the Norway government thought it was abusive to do so.


3 posted on 08/16/2013 4:00:28 AM PDT by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: rickmichaels

This whole article is just sick.


4 posted on 08/16/2013 4:01:23 AM PDT by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: rickmichaels

Parents make the mistake of allowing this to happen.

Once started it’s hard to stop.

My wife and I have slept together in a normal sized double bed for 50 years now. No kids or dogs allowed.

I like having her near.


5 posted on 08/16/2013 4:02:17 AM PDT by Venturer ( cowardice posturing as tolerance =political correctness)
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To: Third Person

Urine is the answer. Get a bedwetter and wake up in that, in your bed, and it’s “get the F-K out!” Worked for me!

Dad has to give mom and ultimatum: You and me or another house and me. The adults are one, the kids are merely the product of that commitment and love. The parent relationship must come first or the kids will live on mac-n-cheese and spend most of their life wishing they had parents that stayed together.


6 posted on 08/16/2013 4:06:36 AM PDT by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It
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To: rickmichaels
What is the pro-Democrat purpose of this article? Is it to portray fruitful heterosexual marriage as bizarrely twisted and unsatisfactory ... compared to those normal, intimate homosexual relationships? Or is it to emphasize that natural parents will get it wrong with disastrous results unless "society" in the form of government intervenes to prevent catastrophe?

This calls for every child to have a government monitor from birth, as in enlightened Scotland! Employ more government workers! SEIU members!

7 posted on 08/16/2013 4:11:26 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Ask me about the Weiner Wager. Support Free Republic!)
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I know a family like this. They have a 13 year old boy, 9 year old boy and 7 year old girl in the bed.

They are all overly attached to Mom. Parents can’t vacation because the kids have panic attacks.

The 9 year old went to sleep away camp for the first time this summer and had to be picked up after 3 days because he threatened to kill himself if he stayed. Camp said get him out of here.

I find it sad and disturbing.


8 posted on 08/16/2013 4:32:28 AM PDT by laxcoach (Government is greedy. Taxpayers who want their own money are not greedy.)
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Maybe the pro-Democrat purpose is simply to give the readers an opportunity to run down other people. One might say that at the heart of the statist worldview is the idea, “I’m better than all those other people who (fill in the blank), and I deserve to run their lives my way.”


9 posted on 08/16/2013 4:51:45 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Ask me about the Weiner Wager. Support Free Republic!)
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To: rickmichaels

So much of this is just sick and wrong. When the kids rule the house and call the shots, the marriage is doomed for failure. They’ve made little idols of their children, to the detriment of all.

On a lighter note, the “Go the F—k to Sleep” book is absolutely hysterical.


10 posted on 08/16/2013 4:57:21 AM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow ("Scheming demons dressed in kingly guise, beating down the multitudes and scoffing at the wise.")
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Absolutely correct. The fact is through out human history we have always had some people that weren't quite there or whose tragic mistakes should serve as warnings.

Now we have people in charge that want to destroy the fabric of western civilization and these type of people are portrayed as the new normal for the express purpose of increasing the size and scope of government.

11 posted on 08/16/2013 4:58:14 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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After obama is done with the US Economy and meddling in world affairs, everyone will be sleeping together with family members huddled in some hovel to keep warm, these people are getting a head start.

Seriously, this is what happens when parents refuse to cut the cord. Look at the number of individuals in their 20s who cannot get along with constant help or advice from their parents. Why? because they were not tought to be self relient, some times that teaching comes with the sink or swim approach to life. I had a GF long ago who decided to move to a motel near a college campus where her son entered as a freshman because she wanted to ensure he was all right. (he was fine and his name was not Doughlas Macarthur either). Eventually her meddling led him to transfer to another college 1000 miles away, he wanted to get away! We both did!


12 posted on 08/16/2013 4:59:50 AM PDT by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: Durus
... for the express purpose of increasing the size and scope of government.

Well-said!

13 posted on 08/16/2013 5:03:05 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Ask me about the Weiner Wager. Support Free Republic!)
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To: rickmichaels

First, I did not read the entire article.

Second, it sounds like the author is trying place a “condition” on this (as in psychological).

Third, I’m sure someone will come up with a medication for it (and make a profit).


14 posted on 08/16/2013 5:10:57 AM PDT by rfreedom4u (I have a copy of the Constitution! And I'm not afraid to use it!)
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I agrees w/you TC. I know you have more kids the. I do (I’m a piker...only 5!) BUT I think our “normal” mothering skills are lacking in many “newer” moms.

$50 per hour for sleep counseling? Maybe this will be a little “start up” business venture for me. Seriously! My oldest son, who coaches several kids teams admits he uses my “attitude” to get adolescents moving.

A few years of “sleep doula” gig; write a book; get a reality show. I can see it!


15 posted on 08/16/2013 5:14:29 AM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom (Just because you are paranoid, it doesn't mean they aren't out to get you...)
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Easy solution to this problem... Just toss a couple of dead bugs under the sheets before the kids get into your bed and let them see them ! You can say “I don’t know why all these bugs keep getting into the bed ? I think they are invading my room “ ! The kid(s) will never want to sleep with you again...


16 posted on 08/16/2013 5:17:58 AM PDT by Bud Krieger (Another President , another idiot......)
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As soon as our little player to be named later, due any day now, makes her appearance into this world, I’ll be nursing number three. I’ve never co-slept. Frankly the idea scares the hell out of me. I did fall asleep one time with my son and he had wiggled his way down into my lap. That shaved a few years off of my life when I woke up and saw what happened! In addition to my fear of smothering my baby, co-sleeping is just a bad idea to begin with. I know couples that haven’t slept alone for years. That’s not healthy. Mom and dad need that time to sleep and enjoy the physical part of a healthy marriage. I know moms that argue the, “Families did this for centuries,” angle, but people did a lot of things for centuries before learning new things.


17 posted on 08/16/2013 5:24:51 AM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: ItsOurTimeNow

My youngest is 16, a few of his friends are also the youngest (have older sibs) but most are either onlies or the oldest. A conversation, from a few weeks ago haunts me. My son’s 16 year old contemporary’s mom was chatting at a sporting event. The subject was the rotten (rainy) summer we have had and how the grass/weeds growing like crazy. She agreed, because she was having to have the dog poop removal service come out everytime the landscaper guys come to cut the grass. Yes. She HIRES people to pick up dog poop and to cut the grass and she has an able bodied 16 year old in the house! And this family lives in a nice neighborhood, but NOT a yuppie McMansion type...I cannot fathom that the 16 year old does no yard work or my guess, chores at all!


18 posted on 08/16/2013 5:25:35 AM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom (Just because you are paranoid, it doesn't mean they aren't out to get you...)
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We had a heck of a time getting our youngest out of the bed at age 5. We told her that when she started kindergarten, she was a big girl and had to sleep in her own bed.

I think my wife was just as upset as my daughter.

She (my wife) had gone though ovarian cancer and all the ramifications the year before, and I think she realized this was her last baby.

It was hard on all of us.


19 posted on 08/16/2013 5:38:42 AM PDT by esoxmagnum (The rats have been trained to pull the D voting lever to get their little food pellet)
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A lot of what I think is common sense has people staring in disbelief. I got chewed out by a woman at a swim meet this summer (not on our team) because I told a group of boys including her son that they could stay in the room where we were entering the meet data “if they kept their mouths shut.” They had walked in, plugged a video game into the wall, and started talking at the top of their lungs about it, oblivious to adults’ working.

“You could have said something kinder! You can’t tell children to keep their mouths shut!” Well, I didn’t ... it was a conditional, “IF they kept their mouths shut.” In retrospect, I should simply have told them they couldn’t hang out in the room.


20 posted on 08/16/2013 5:45:29 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Ask me about the Weiner Wager. Support Free Republic!)
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