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To: Moonman62
Methodology and statistics courses are one obvious place

I would agree that these fields would help get science into a better place. But, of course, statistics has its own problems. The economy is doing great, right? Unemployment rate is low and often drops, yes? That's what the statistics say.

More than anything, I would like to see an overhaul in how statistics are used -- because they are often used dishonestly. Perhaps, as part of that, science could jump on the bandwagon and undergo some of its own reforms.

4 posted on 09/23/2013 3:13:58 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (21st century. I'm not a fan.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

> “That’s what the statistics say.”

No, that’s what people say that statistics say. Statistics do not lie, people lie and some people lie using invalid statistics.

It’s the same type of false argument used in the framing the politics of gun control; “Guns kill people, therefore regulate guns”.

The scientific field of statistics has for more than a century pointed out the misuses of statistics by people calling themselves scientists. It’s all there in the literature.

No regulation or system is going to cure or mitigate human misconduct. The scientific marketplace regulates itself by discounting names of so-called scientists who misuse methods and mislead readers and consumers.

If you were deeply aware of the true players in science, you would know them by name and reputation. But there are many posing as scientists who in fact are nothing more than con artists. And there will always be con artists just like the fact there will always be prostitutes. It is up to you, it is up to each of us to see who is truthful and who is not and that can only start by holding truth as a value.


11 posted on 09/23/2013 4:53:13 AM PDT by Hostage (Be Breitbart!)
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