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1 posted on 09/26/2013 1:23:55 PM PDT by BruceDeitrickPrice
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In the antebellum South, it was illegal to teach slaves to to read lest they get “dangerous ideas.”

In the the liberal plantation that the USA is rapidly becoming, organized education will prevent everyone from learning to read lest they get “dangerous ideas.”


2 posted on 09/26/2013 1:36:40 PM PDT by Arm_Bears (Refuse; Resist; Rebel; Revolt!)
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I agree with much of the article but all of us use some “sight word” methods. There, their, and they’re are all sounded out about the same but we use a whole word approach to ID the meaning.


3 posted on 09/26/2013 1:38:05 PM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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Agree. But the issue is more complex than stated here.

A large number of children, probably a considerable majority, will learn to read with ease regardless of what method is used. I personally don’t remember how I learned, since I cannot remember not knowing how to read. Mom took a picture of me when I’d just turned 3 absorbed in a “real” book. So the method used in schools was just irrelevant to me. The other second graders were reading Dick and Jane. I was reading Lord of the Rings.

The problem is that there is a considerable subset of children that can learn to read well if given appropriate instruction via phonics, as people have learned to read for thousands of years, but not if forced to learn via “modern” methods.

But, as the article says, phonics isn’t modern, or sexy, or innovative, or something. So large numbers of children must be sacrificed so these evil idiots can pat each other on the back.


4 posted on 09/26/2013 1:38:58 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Mark Steyn: "In the Middle East, the enemy of our enemy is also our enemy.")
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So, instead of learning ABC’s and learning how words are constructed of sounds; the kids have to learn the entire word by sight?


5 posted on 09/26/2013 1:40:59 PM PDT by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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Nobody can learn to read that way.

Untrue. Large numbers do.

Acceptable as hyperbole, though.

6 posted on 09/26/2013 1:45:44 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Mark Steyn: "In the Middle East, the enemy of our enemy is also our enemy.")
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As Dr. Samuel Blumenfeld has mordantly noted in The Victims of Dick and Jane, “The International Reading Association...is perhaps the only organization of such size in which a form of educational malpractice has been enshrined as the highest pedagogical good and its practitioners awarded prizes for their achievements....The vast majority of American children are trapped within a system that is turning their brains into macaroni."

I clearly remember learning to read in 1st grade with Dick and Jane in 1956-57. (First word on the first page of the book was "Look!")

Of course, we also had a phonics workbook as part of the instruction.

I will be the first to admit that I have many flaws, but being unable to read is certainly not one of them.

7 posted on 09/26/2013 1:45:49 PM PDT by Maceman (Just say "NO" to tyranny.)
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It doesn't matter how a child learns to read, just that they do. Right now, most high school graduates really can't read proficiently. That is part of the reason colleges, junior and universities, have established remedial programs for reading, math and several other areas. This is because the graduates are sorely deficient in all of these areas and aren't ready, out of high school, to do college level work.

I have talked to several college presidents about this.

8 posted on 09/26/2013 1:46:30 PM PDT by Parmy
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Generally agree, Bruce, phonetics be the way to go.

Better tools, better results.

No darn Ebonics.

9 posted on 09/26/2013 1:46:36 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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Why make learning to read so troublesome? With the aid of a colorful alphabet book, a grandfather who helped me learn the associated sounds, and access to books plus an occasional prompt from that grandfather, I became a competent reader before entering first grade, and then was introduced to Dick and Jane and Spot, at 5 yrs, 9 mos. And I am just an ordinary schmoe.
My three children likewise became competent readers before entering first grade, because their mother (and occasionally moi) regularly read to them, colorful word/picture books were readily available to them, and they could practice their skill by reading the sides of cereal boxes at breakfast. And they were not distracted by TV cartoon junk.


10 posted on 09/26/2013 1:47:23 PM PDT by Elsiejay
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This article is SPOT ON!


11 posted on 09/26/2013 1:49:55 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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BookMark


14 posted on 09/26/2013 1:52:56 PM PDT by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." Dorothy Bernard)
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Yer a racist and a homophobe. /S


15 posted on 09/26/2013 1:53:48 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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How silly - it’s no harder than learning to read Chinese.


18 posted on 09/26/2013 1:59:23 PM PDT by glorgau
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Used Bob Books with my kids. Absolutely the best phonics based reading program. The "books" are pamphlets that initially focus on one vowel pronunciation and a few consonants. They have funny plots and are so short attention span is not a problem. They gradually ramp up the complexity so it's easy for the kids to advance.

So, even if you are trapped with a teacher who insists on using "modern" methods and your kid is falling behind, a few minutes with Bob each night is the cure.

19 posted on 09/26/2013 2:02:31 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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“Probably the main thing is that they were a cult ....”

Read Feynmann’s commencement speech at Cal Tech.
Cargo Cult Science. He discussed the fakery and dishonesty that he observed in education.

http://www.lhup.edu/~DSIMANEK/cargocul.htm

It’s a good read.


21 posted on 09/26/2013 2:04:24 PM PDT by paint_your_wagon
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They tried to pull this crap on my child in the late eighties, we noticed something about her reading as we had begun phonics before grammar school and her grades started to plummet, we told them phonics or we’d pull her from school. They caved and the whole program was scraped the following year!


23 posted on 09/26/2013 2:08:12 PM PDT by qman (The communist usurper must go!)
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Look-say, Whole-Word, and whatever other name they give it is a giant step up to converting the writing system to Hieroglyphics which promotes politically beneficial Illiteracy. Eventually it is hoped that the profession of Scribe will be resurrected for the Priests of the New Utopia so that information is more easily filtered and controlled.


29 posted on 09/26/2013 2:24:29 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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Shades of John Taylor Gatto. Look him up for a good read on education.

I also love how the good readers in public schools are told to slow down (one chapter a week, just like everyone else) and given the drivel to read so they can stay at the level of their peers and how teachers smarmily talk about how the kid in question, might be reading an 'advanced' book but how there's no way they are understanding it.
31 posted on 09/26/2013 2:25:25 PM PDT by AD from SpringBay (http://jonah2eight.blogspot.com/)
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No, America punked itself. In 2008 and 2012. And now they are on the verge of getting what they voted for.


34 posted on 09/26/2013 2:40:14 PM PDT by sport
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Thanks, Bruce, for another well-researched article on reading. And just in time for school starting this fall.

How does a parent know if their first grader may be developing a reading problem based on lack of phonics? Here’s a checklist:

He guesses constantly.

He confuses “a” and “the.”

He can usually sound out the first letter and the last letter but the middle of the word is a mystery.

He looks at the pictures first and does a lot of his guesswork based on the pictures.

A word list to memorize appears in his homework, sometimes with instructions for him to call out the words as quickly as possible. (Speed is stressed rather than accuracy.)

If readers come home, they contain a high volume of irregular words that are difficult to sound out.
(Phonetic readers have very few irregular words.)

If you suspect your child is failing to learn to read, research the Internet and find a compatible phonics program to help you teach him.

Or hire someone to tutor him.

Reading is the most important thing he will ever learn in school and his future depends on it.


47 posted on 09/26/2013 4:23:09 PM PDT by Liberty Wins ( The average lefty is synapse challenged)
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