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1 posted on 10/12/2013 12:54:01 PM PDT by Usagi_yo
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To: Usagi_yo

Why exempt the military?


2 posted on 10/12/2013 12:55:28 PM PDT by Ajnin (Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinion of sheep.)
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To: Usagi_yo
ridiculous and spiteful
3 posted on 10/12/2013 12:58:53 PM PDT by NEPA (Give me liberty, not debt)
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To: Usagi_yo

Absurd.


4 posted on 10/12/2013 1:00:10 PM PDT by KC Burke (Officially since Memorial Day they are the Gimmie-crat Party.h)
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To: Usagi_yo

Don’t start what you can’t stop. You’d also have to prohibit government contractors from contributing because they have a special interest in more government spending.


7 posted on 10/12/2013 1:02:34 PM PDT by Procyon (Decentralize, degovernmentalize, deregulate, demonopolize, decredentialize, disentitle.)
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To: Usagi_yo

2. Government employees (not military), federal and state do not get to vote in elections.

Saw this suggested here on FR six or eight years ago. It went nowhere.


8 posted on 10/12/2013 1:04:23 PM PDT by Jack Hammer (American)
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To: Usagi_yo
That has nothing to do with the 17th amendment.

Why not just ban anyone who has received any money from the government for any reason in the last five years from voting?

9 posted on 10/12/2013 1:05:24 PM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: Usagi_yo

Get Congress, 1/3rd of the states to change your desires. Good luck!


15 posted on 10/12/2013 1:16:47 PM PDT by napscoordinator ( Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the country!)
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Why not require military service in order to vote? Stupidest idea I have ever heard. I know more conservative federal workers than you can imagine. Why not make it illegal for anyone of color to vote... Oh wait tried that once. It is called discrimination. How about fining any conservative who stayed home and did not vote. Nope that would not work either. How about keeping these dumb ideas to yourself.
19 posted on 10/12/2013 1:29:31 PM PDT by BlowNegative (The Thing about Silent Warfare - Don't leave footprints)
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To: Usagi_yo; All

I used to beat the drums for the repeal of the 17th Amendment and would still report its repeal.

However ...

The problem with the 17th Amendment is actually not the 17th Amendment imo. After all, the 17th Amendment did not delegate any new powers to Congress.

The issue with the 17th Amendment is that it showed that many generations of parents have not been making sure that their children are being taught the Constitution as the Founding States had intended for it to be understood, particularly the federal government’s limited powers. And the consequence of voters not understanding the federal governments limited powers is that they think that everything that the federal government does is constitutional.

Another way to look at the 17th Amendment is this. Educating low-information voters about the federal government’s constitutionally limited powers would arguably be the equivalent of repealing the 17th Amendment.


20 posted on 10/12/2013 1:38:10 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Usagi_yo

So let me get this straight. We’re revising the constitution so that people who might vote in their best interests are no longer allowed to?

And freedom of speech through campaign contributions will be limited to those who agree with us?

I’m sure this is exactly what the founding fathers had in mind when the penned the constitution.

Everything you’ve suggested is antithetical to conservative values. It makes me sick.


22 posted on 10/12/2013 1:52:09 PM PDT by heloff
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To: Usagi_yo

Government employees are not allowed to organize, and work at-will.


25 posted on 10/12/2013 3:25:15 PM PDT by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: Usagi_yo

You’re working the problem from the wrong side of the equation — reducing the size of the government and the requisite quantity of employees is the way to go, IMO. The “shutdown” has already done part of the job by identifying the non-critical positions, add in the National Park Service employees that chose to follow orders and kept WW2 vets away from their memorial and you have a good start.


26 posted on 10/12/2013 4:40:55 PM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: Usagi_yo; Jacquerie

BTTT!


32 posted on 10/13/2013 7:43:06 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Major brain damage at UMES, but no property damage!)
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