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Pennsylvania judge orders woman to stop breastfeeding
SFGate ^ | 11/14/2013 | Amy Graff

Posted on 11/15/2013 11:49:11 AM PST by Responsibility2nd

Edited on 11/15/2013 11:50:27 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

A Pennsylvania woman is speaking out against a judge who ordered her to stop breastfeeding her 10-month-old daughter.

Jessica Moser is in the midst of a custody battle with her daughter Jasmineís father and the Northampton County resident told local TV station WFMZ that two weeks ago a judge told her to stop nursing her daughter so the girl could spend two days a week at her fatherís house.


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To: driftdiver

What kind of a douche bag denies a father the right to see his child?

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This kind:

“I’m feeling frustrated, hurt,” Moser told WFMZ-TV. “I’m trying to keep myself from crying, it’s very emotional.”


51 posted on 11/15/2013 12:51:36 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: editor-surveyor

No, the parents put the child at risk by allowing their marriage to fail.

The judge is just trying to ensure the child has access to her father.


52 posted on 11/15/2013 12:52:51 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Its amazing that men even get married anymore.


53 posted on 11/15/2013 12:54:29 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Women use this as an issue to keep fathers away from “their” children and that is wrong- they could pump milk while the child is away and store it... but they should not use it as an excuse to prevent a father from seeing a child.

My idiot ex tried to do that, until I told the judge she had just bought herself new breasts (against my wishes) and was unable to breastfeed- he ordered her to go to a court appointed nurse to determine if she was able to breastfeed and she dropped the claim.


54 posted on 11/15/2013 1:01:56 PM PST by Mr. K
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To: Responsibility2nd

Sure wish we had information on what caused the end of the relationship...could be either one cheated or a mutual decision to end, or any other reason. Unfortunately for the child, the adults couldn’t play responsibly and the child has to pay for their childishness. It is true that breastmilk is best for the child, but there are ways to get past that obstacle. If the father truly wants time with the baby and not just trying to be vindictive to the mom, then they need to find a way to make it work!


55 posted on 11/15/2013 1:05:16 PM PST by trussell (I carry because...When seconds count between life and death, the police are only minutes away)
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To: Mr. K

Your ex shoulda been charged with perjury and contempt.


56 posted on 11/15/2013 1:06:32 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: editor-surveyor

I have two healthy kids, and two healthy grand kids, none of them were breastfed.

There is nothing wrong with not breastfeeding. This crap about kids cannot be healthy if not breast fed is Bullsh*t.


57 posted on 11/15/2013 1:10:00 PM PST by Venturer (Keep Obama and you aint seen nothing yet.)
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To: driftdiver

My daughter was breast fed and my son was bottle fed (after the first 6 weeks). I had to stop feeding the son due to thyroid issues and they burned my thyroid with iodine radiation. My son has JRA, Lymes disease and is not generally healthy. My daughter only has spondolysis but is otherwise VERY healthy. I have to agree that breastfeeding, up to the first birthday is the best option, and should be done unless there is a medical reason why it can’t be.

Still, there is no reason why she can’t pump enough for his visits, and pump while baby is gone to keep up production!


58 posted on 11/15/2013 1:10:57 PM PST by trussell (I carry because...When seconds count between life and death, the police are only minutes away)
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To: trussell

Well she probably should have suggested putting it in a bottle.

Instead she chose to deny her child access to her father.


59 posted on 11/15/2013 1:12:15 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
I can see the picture now....you will have to pry this boob from my cold dead hand!
60 posted on 11/15/2013 1:15:21 PM PST by tophat9000 (Are we headed to a Cracker Slacker War?)
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To: driftdiver

I agree with you...she is trying to use this as an excuse to keep baby away from the father. She should have been more mature and said she could/would pump for his visits. Instead, it sounds like she is using it as a reason to deny the dad. Shame on her!


61 posted on 11/15/2013 1:16:06 PM PST by trussell (I carry because...When seconds count between life and death, the police are only minutes away)
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To: driftdiver

Beware the breast milk mafia. They will order their legion of white-knight, beta slaves after you.


62 posted on 11/15/2013 1:17:43 PM PST by drunknsage
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To: Responsibility2nd

This is dreadful. At ten months, which is more important to a child? There are methods of addressing this issue that do not involve keeping her from maintaining a relationship with her father. Imho, this mother is doing a very wrong thing here.


63 posted on 11/15/2013 1:19:13 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: drunknsage

yeah well they better bring their support bras and know that I don’t allow breaks for nursing during the fight.

Breast feeding is the best option for most children and moms. Mommy screwed that up here.


64 posted on 11/15/2013 1:21:58 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: goodwithagun
What kind of a douche bag does this to his child?

Which part? Creating a child with someone who months later you can't work with to do what's in the best interest of the child? Creating a child with someone you aren't or won't live with? Creating a child who has to visit someone YOU are unwilling to visit?

The answer: BOTH of them!

65 posted on 11/15/2013 1:29:12 PM PST by Onelifetogive (I tweet, too... @Onelifetogive)
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To: trussell
I had to stop feeding the son due to thyroid issues and they burned my thyroid with iodine radiation. My son has JRA, Lymes disease and is not generally healthy.

If your son has Lyme disease, that has absolutely nothing to do with your not breast feeding him. Your kid got infected somewhere, probably by a carrier tick. How would breast feeding have saved him from that? And I wouldn't be surprised if the JRA is a result of the Lyme disease. People with chronic Lyme disease are generally unhealthy - that's what the disease does. I hope you've gotten him to a Lyme-literate doctor.
66 posted on 11/15/2013 1:38:43 PM PST by fr_freak
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To: fr_freak

The JRA was before the lymes. Because of the JRA, he couldn’t fight the lymes with the antibiotics they gave him and it became permanent. Breast feeding could POSSIBLY have given him a stronger immune system and protected him from the JRA which I was told was caused by having strep throat that his father failed to treat him for.

As for a Lymes literate doctor, what should I look for in trying to find one that is better in treating that condition? I’m having trouble getting proper treatment for him, and he suffers terrible headaches and muscle pains!


67 posted on 11/15/2013 1:46:11 PM PST by trussell (I carry because...When seconds count between life and death, the police are only minutes away)
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To: driftdiver

Well, he could marry the mother get a job and support everybody, that way mom could breastfeed, he could see the child and the child could grow up secure, just like God intended


68 posted on 11/15/2013 1:53:17 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Responsibility2nd

you are being mean

All the studies show that breastfed children are the healthiest as far as antibodies and that breastfed children do not struggle with obesity

so there


69 posted on 11/15/2013 1:57:44 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: wideawake

I had one child that weaned himself about 8 months, another that I thought I was going to die if she didn’t stop, finally when she was about 2 I told her it was all gone. But my kids are healthy as horses and none is fat.


70 posted on 11/15/2013 1:59:17 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk

Takes two


71 posted on 11/15/2013 2:01:07 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: yldstrk

I’ll match your studies with 10 times more studies that show children from normal intact families are less likely to commit crime, more likely to get a better education, more likely to earn more, and are better off in many other different ways. Now and in the future.

The trouble is... in this case, the poor kid is already screwed. At 10 months old, she has idiots for parents. And like you just said; unless the parents get married and raise the kid like a normal child, the breastfeeding issues really won’t matter.


72 posted on 11/15/2013 2:06:34 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: trussell
As for a Lymes literate doctor, what should I look for in trying to find one that is better in treating that condition?

Things have been changing over the last 10 years from when I first researched all this stuff, but a big part of the problem with getting treatment for chronic Lyme disease is that mainstream medical thinking was that chronic Lyme disease didn't exist. Up until a few/several years ago, the CDC listed treatment for Lyme disease as 2 weeks of doxycycline, then everything will be fine! But many, many people were discovering that the two weeks didn't do a thing. Meanwhile, most doctors were simply taking the CDC's thinking as gospel, and refusing to consider the possibility of a long-term chronic infection.

However, doctors here and there, who were trying to treat these chronic patients, realized that the conventional thinking about the disease was wrong and set about determining their own course of treatment (usually heavy, long-term antibiotic use), often placing their industry reputations at risk for bucking the mainstream thinking. Those are the "Lyme literate" doctors, because they have real world experience with treatment instead of going by some glossy CDC pamphlet and claiming that it's all in your head when the two weeks of doxy doesn't do squat.

I don't know how much research you've already done (some of this you may already know), but here are a couple of links that can help you out:

A write-up on the Lyme doctor situation:
http://www.chroniclymedisease.com/llmd-referrals

This one is a support group/discussion forum, but can have a lot of good info:
http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi

Bear in mind that, this being the internet, you'll have to sift through a lot of junk as well as good info.

Unfortunately, I have a pretty good amount of experience with this sort of research, so if you're interested, you can shoot me a private message and I'll talk to you further about it, so we don't clutter the thread.
73 posted on 11/15/2013 2:16:51 PM PST by fr_freak
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To: editor-surveyor
The judge is placing the child at risk for his own agenda.

And what's your agenda?

I'm reading your posts, and I wonder why you hate men so much!

There really are two sides to every story. You seem to be fixated on only one.

74 posted on 11/15/2013 3:20:42 PM PST by ConradofMontferrat ( According to mudslimz, my handle is a HATE CRIME. And I HOPE they don't like it.)
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To: driftdiver

As an overproducer I average about 6 oz. a day to the freezer. At 10 months my kids were drinking about 24 oz. per day since they were eating 2 puree servings as well. That means I would need 8 days to produce enough milk for one weekend. The math does not work. Maybe she’ll be lucky and be a super-duper overproducer?


75 posted on 11/15/2013 4:05:15 PM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: editor-surveyor

Our girls were preemies and in the hospital for 6 weeks and on IV. My wife had to pump to keep the supply going, and has we weened them onto breast milk. Between our upstairs and downstairs freezers, and two of the neighbor’s freezers there was never a shortage!

Even once they were home, with two of them it was one on a breast for a bit while the other on a bottle, and then switch them halfway through! (I look fondly back at the photos of those days ignoring the reality of it all!)


76 posted on 11/15/2013 4:11:55 PM PST by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: goodwithagun

So you’d rather prevent your daughter from seeing her father?

BTW there are ways to increase what you produce.


77 posted on 11/15/2013 4:31:18 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

From what I’ve researched, I’m producing near the max. I’m sure there are freaky producers out there, but what are the odds of her being one? The point is that a judge should not be making this decision. I’d like to know who filed for divorce. If it’s the father then he could have stuck it out until his daughter was weaned. If he can’t stick it out because his wife is abusive then he should have filed for full custody.


78 posted on 11/15/2013 4:37:22 PM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: GeronL
"If I were that kid, I would breast feed until I was 18."


79 posted on 11/15/2013 4:48:30 PM PST by Hoodat (Democrats - Opposing Equal Protection since 1828)
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To: Hoodat

and there are some crazy women who would let you too


80 posted on 11/15/2013 4:49:37 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: goodwithagun

Perhaps she should have worked with the judge instead of keeping the baby from her father.

You seems to keep skipping that side of the issue. Are you a man hater?


81 posted on 11/15/2013 4:57:01 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: GeronL

I was working in a bookstore several years ago and there was a lady came in, sat in front of the shelf of books and bared a boob for her 5 year old to nurse, no covering, no modesty! 5 YEARS OLD...and when she said “that’s enough, we’re leaving now” the kid started SCREAMING until she gave in and let it nurse some more.


82 posted on 11/15/2013 4:59:58 PM PST by trussell (I carry because...When seconds count between life and death, the police are only minutes away)
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To: trussell

That’s pretty crazy


83 posted on 11/15/2013 5:07:49 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: editor-surveyor
We know that all kids need their mother’s milk to develop properly. All other issues need to yield to that inescapable fact.

You're a complete idiot, aren't you?

84 posted on 11/15/2013 5:09:34 PM PST by Teacher317 (Obama is failing faster than I can lower my expectations.)
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To: Teacher317

No, but to a thick-headed moron like you, I’m sure all sensible people do seem strange.

Why are ‘teachers’ always so full of crap?


85 posted on 11/15/2013 5:18:44 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: ConradofMontferrat

I am a man Dimwit!

I just believe that kids early development has to come first.


86 posted on 11/15/2013 5:21:41 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: driftdiver

>> “Hundreds of millions of children have grown up on formula.” <<

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And that is exactly why America is having this massive ‘health’ crisis, with degenerative disease increasing exponentially.


87 posted on 11/15/2013 5:23:53 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I don’t have the plunbing for that Nitwit!


88 posted on 11/15/2013 5:24:57 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: goodwithagun
the father is being a douche for denying his daughter proper nutrition.

Revenge is more important than his child.

In the animal kingdom it's frequently not the father that protects the baby. It's the mother. Same among humans.

89 posted on 11/15/2013 6:34:41 PM PST by ladyjane
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To: driftdiver

Are you a woman hater? Seriously, did you completely ignore my previous post? You’re a loony, and good night!


90 posted on 11/15/2013 7:35:10 PM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: ladyjane

I think real fathers and real mothers will protect in their own ways, but in the same sense equally. Notice I typed real. Women today, and I’m talking about my age group, only want a fun hookup. So do men. When they experience consequences they are helpless and quick to give up. This case kind of reminds me of King Soloman, but instead of two moms there is a mom and a dad. Unfortunately, both seem equally fine with tearing the baby in half. If they truly could not make things work, then they both need to give a little. Dad could have baby on the weekend with mom delivering milk or nursing, while dad watches baby through the week so mom can pump for his weekend. But then again, this compromise might bring them closer and this wacko judge wouldn’t want that.


91 posted on 11/15/2013 7:44:31 PM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: editor-surveyor

Oh God, she’s back. And now she’s posing as a man?

I wonder if even Laz would hit that?


92 posted on 11/15/2013 7:58:14 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

You have to be the worst troll on FR.

You have a perfect record of being on the wrong side of every issue.


93 posted on 11/15/2013 8:25:24 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: goodwithagun

>> “and this wacko judge wouldn’t want that.” <<

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You’ve got that right!


94 posted on 11/15/2013 8:27:14 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

“I just believe that kids early development has to come first.”

Early development includes a relationship with the father.


95 posted on 11/15/2013 8:58:15 PM PST by Rebelbase (Tagline: optional, printed after your name on post)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Why does a 10 month old breast-fed baby need to spend two days with the father?? What is he going to do, watch her sleep? Babies that young don’t need to be out of their environment for two days... Can’t he spend the day with her and let her go home at night until she is older? Sorry, but the baby’s best interest is more important.


96 posted on 11/15/2013 9:13:58 PM PST by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: driftdiver

“She can start pumping and her body will make more to meet the additional demand. In a few days the lactation karma will be in balance”

Lactation karma! I think I like it!


97 posted on 11/15/2013 9:26:47 PM PST by longhorn too
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To: Political Junkie Too
What happened to a woman controlling her own body? Or is that only before the baby is born?

S you are OK with her scummily keeping the child from the father? he has rights as well.

98 posted on 11/16/2013 5:15:35 AM PST by Travis T. OJustice (I'm not a gynecologist, but I'll take a look.)
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To: yldstrk
the dad is wrong for pressing this, he should cool his jets and wait

Wrong. The dad deserves to be with his kid.

99 posted on 11/16/2013 5:16:49 AM PST by Travis T. OJustice (I'm not a gynecologist, but I'll take a look.)
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To: Travis T. OJustice
I don't think I'm okay with that kind of order from a judge. Surely there must be some other kind of resolution than a bizarre controlling order like this.

-PJ

100 posted on 11/16/2013 5:27:09 AM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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