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You pulled another thread ( http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/3101698/posts?page=1 ) because you don’t believe the footage from a government satellite?


247 posted on 12/14/2013 4:23:00 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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First of all solar flares having nothing whatsoever to do with ISON and they happen all the time. The Sun is very, very large and in comparison, ISON was a mere speck. To say that ISON caused any solar flares would be analogous to saying, “I took a piss in the ocean one day off the Santa Monica Pier and the very next day there was an earth quake and tsunami in Japan.”

ISON was already breaking up and disintegrating well before it reached perihelion and it was estimated to only be about a half mile in diameter at most, a rather small comet. To say as your “YouTube” source claims that there are mile wide chunks about to hit the Earth is ridiculous. You simply don’t and can’t get mile wide or bigger chunks from a comet that was less than a half mile wide in diameter to begin with.

And look at this, the Earth is simply not going to intersect with any outbound ISON comet debris:

 http://astrobob.areavoices.com/files/2013/12/ISON-A-Earth-post-perihelion.jpg

http://astrobob.areavoices.com/2013/12/10/comet-ison-update-dec-10-meteor-shower-in-the-offing/

“I’ve been asked whether Earth will get dusted by ISON’s dusty cloud of debris as it passes our planet on the outbound leg of its journey. The answer is almost certainly “no”. There are several reasons why. First, the debris passes far above the Earth’s orbit even at its closest approach on Dec. 26, when what’s left of the comet will be nearly directly above our planet and 40 million miles away. That’s farther than Venus and even farther than Mars during its closest approaches. I’ve read catastrophic talk ISON raining hell fire on Earth. Not gonna happen. Not even meteor fire – at least from the breakup.

Second, while the debris cloud will certainly expand and enlarge, the comet leftovers will continue to travel along the same general path as ISON. They won’t suddenly veer off and make a beeline for Earth. They carry much of the original momentum and direction as the comet that created them.

And

Meteor researcher Paul Wiegert of the University of Western Ontario has been using a computer to model the trajectory of dust ejected by Comet ISON and predicts that starting about January 12 and continuing for several evenings, we stand a chance of a meteor shower from material released well before perihelion.

The dust particles will strike Earth’s atmosphere at around 125,000 mph (56 km/sec), but because they’ll be so tiny, it’s unlikely we’ll actually see anything.

To say that these dust particles from ISON pose any danger to Earth or will even be observable is ridiculous. We might at the very best observe a few brief streaks of light in the sky as some of the larger particles (yet very tiny specs) when they hit the high atmosphere and quickly burn up but they are not likely to be anything compared to other meteor showers like the Geminids or any of the other yearly meteor showers. FYI, the fire ball seen over Arizona had nothing whatsoever to do with ISON but was most likely part of the Geminid meteor shower which are known for occasionally producing harmless but yet very bright “fire balls”.

The International Space Station and other Earth orbiting objects like satellites are more in danger from space debris of the man made kind than they are from specks of specks of dust left over from ISON.

And your source for these YouTube videos you keep posting here, Jessie Waltman; he is a complete nut job with no understanding or background in astronomy and as someone on another one of your ISON threads correctly called it: “Disaster Porn”

There seems to me to be a subset of “End Times” and prophesy and conspiracy theorists nuts who keep claiming that the “End Of The World Is Nigh.” They keep predicting mass destruction and horrific mass deaths either from comets or asteroids, rogue planets that do not exist, or earth quakes or volcanoes, or a combination of every natural disaster possible or just God’s plain wrath, and when it doesn’t happen as predicted, they just move on to the next one. And this is not just limited to the religious conspiracy nuts; the Gia worshiping environmental AGW (anthropogenic global warming) nuts seem to also revel in the idea of eventual demise of mankind.

Remember when Harold Camping famously or more precisely “infamously” predicted that the end of the world and the rapture would occur on May 21, 2011 but when that didn’t happen he just moved the date to October 21, 2011 and when that didn’t happen he pretty much retired and disappeared from public view? Unfortunately a few of his true believers sold everything they owned in order to buy billboards and quit their jobs in order to stand on street corners proclaiming the end of the world. Well “Stupid is as stupid does” and I have a hard time feeling sorry for such gullible and uneducated fools.

“Disaster Porn” is a very good name for this sort of thing. There are some people who actually seem to wish for and actually look forward and get their jollies off from imaging mass horrific and painful deaths of millions of people and the mass destruction of the Earth during their life time because they think they will somehow be immune or “saved” from it and will somehow feel fulfilled and justified in seeing the horrific deaths of others who don’t believe exactly as they do. And when it doesn’t happen, rather than being relieved, they seem rather disappointed and then they just move on to the next weird and scientifically unsound “disaster porn” theory.

“You pulled another thread…. because you don’t believe the footage from a government satellite?

No. That thread was pulled because it was “Idiocy” and rightly so.

248 posted on 12/14/2013 6:57:28 AM PST by MD Expat in PA
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To: Yosemitest; MD Expat in PA; Admin Moderator
You pulled another thread ... because you don’t believe the footage from a government satellite?

No.. If I read correctly, AM noted that your thread content was "Idiocy"...

If you based your pulled thread content on material from BPEarthwatch, the AM is correct in his opinion.

By your own admission, you are choosing to believe moonbattery from a person who is a devotee of the Nibiru cult. ("And the deeper I dig into this subject, the more I find about BPEarthWatch's logic, that the facts bear out to be true.") If your source is so deranged as to believe that, tell me why you, a supposedly same individual, would find any other of his pronouncements to be possessing any useful value?

Unless you also are a stealth devotee of the Nibiru cult (despite your previous comment) and therefore are to be classed in the same category.. (That would be 'Moonbat'..)

You are aware, I trust, that the idea of the Nibiru encounter originated with Nancy Lieder, a Wisconsin woman who claims that as a girl she was contacted by gray extraterrestrials called Zetas, who implanted a communications device in her brain. In 1995, she founded the website ZetaTalk to disseminate her ideas. Lieder first came to public attention on Internet newsgroups during the build-up to Comet Hale–Bopp's 1997 perihelion. She stated, claiming to speak as the Zetas, that "The Hale-Bopp comet does not exist. It is a fraud, perpetrated by those who would have the teeming masses quiescent until it is too late. Hale-Bopp is nothing more than a distant star, and will draw no closer." She claimed that the Hale-Bopp story was manufactured to distract people from the imminent arrival of a large planetary object, "Planet X", which would soon pass by Earth and destroy civilization. After Hale-Bopp's perihelion revealed it as one of the brightest and longest-observed comets of the last century, Lieder removed the first two sentences of her initial statement from her site, though they can still be found in Google's archives. Her claims eventually made the New York Times. (source of this last paragraph and other really enlightening reading on Nibiru, Herculobus - another thing BPEarthwatch espouses - can be found HERE)

You recommend (on your profile page) to read our own Bible... Might I suggest that you do likewise. I further suggest that you read Galatians 5:9 (“A little yeast works through the whole batch of dough.”) (BTW - if you only understand the Bible if it is in Elizabethan English, that would be "A little leaven leaveneth the whole lump.") It would seem that the leven that your source is using in the bread he is feeding you is at the least defective.

Just for you, I offer this photographic evidence for the existance of Nibiru...

Your mileage may vary.

260 posted on 12/15/2013 12:48:55 PM PST by NoCmpromiz (John 14:6 is a non-pluralistic comment.)
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