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To: VideoPaul

That’s not what happened. The worker raised the alarm and was told to get his ass up in the air or find another gig. Because NOTHING is more important than “the program”. Certainly not a human life. And we got the body to prove it.

...i shall put this to you as charitably as I can...you, sir, have no idea what you’re talking about...and for your own sake, so that perhaps you might spout no more slander on this painful topic, I shall attempt to enlighten you, futile as that prospect may be...

...Declan was not forced by the ‘football program’ to go into the lift that day, nor was any ultimatum between ‘living’ or ‘losing your gig’ issued...you’ve fabricated that out of wholecloth...we can all say that everybody concerned, Declan, his boss the video director, the coaches, the players, the university, should have known the danger the wind presented, and we might be correct in that...but to fit the narrative you’ve chosen to present, the ‘football’ program, and all involved, would have to have shown malicious intent, and have had reason to believe the wind would collapse the crane, with Declan’s death the likely result...a narrative you obviously have no reason to suspect...

...Declan’s family has spoken at great, gut wrenching length about this...and has adopted none of the scurrilous tripe with which you have stained this forum...his own father has maintained, through his most heart felt grief, has pointed no finger in the assignment of blame, that he feels the situation was a tragic accident, that he does not seek forgiveness, because in order to do so, he would have to hold somebody to blame...again, for your own sake, please read the Sullivan family’s own narrative, that you may attain some measure of sanity, and perhaps some notion of the intense pain this has caused...

...for any sane person, reading both the Sullivan’s account and yours, would certainly choose the truth of the bereaved family over the demented ramblings you’ve subjected us to...
and even though I suspect you’ll respond by sticking to your own lunacy about this, I can always hope that you may be moved enough to dispense with your arrogance...


94 posted on 12/06/2013 7:52:05 AM PST by IrishBrigade
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To: IrishBrigade

We will have to agree to disagree about this. You see that football program as infallible and a worker’s death as a cost of doing business for them—regrettable, but paling in comparison to the needs of “the program”. I see it as an unforgivable abrogation of their obligation to protect people that got completely ignored in their zeal to video tape a practice on a windy day when anyone with an IQ above room temperature wouldn’t have even considered asking him to get up in an lift in those conditions. The worker’s own twee t about it _”oh well, i guess I’ve lived long enough” it pretty clear that he wasn’t given a choice. His last tweet—”Holy ____ this is terrifying” is clear that he did not have an option to come down.

Even one of the players wrote about how they lost sight of what was important. While I’m sure “the program” relies on fans like you to keep their sequaky clean image in the face of preventable deaths and rapes, those looking at the facts and the problem of universities that are little more than life support for an athletics program say otherwise.

The late Mr. Declan’s family is entitled to their opinion of fault, but the fact that ND was fined at all says that they were in fact at fault. If ND wasn’t at fault, no fine would have been imposed. Any other organization would have paid many, many times the pittance for a human life ND got fined, but we all know how important “the program” is and how it’s just not acceptable for anything to hurt it.

As I said, we’ll never agree on this topic. We both see each other as wrong and hopelessly myopic. Enjoy the game.


95 posted on 12/06/2013 8:22:40 AM PST by VideoPaul
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