Surprised this reference hasn't been posted yet.
Posted on 12/05/2013 3:40:07 PM PST by Ronin
Every leftist/Democrat president has purged and shrunk the military back to even Truman.
I have 6 Army wife friends-3 are hard core Union type Democrats and love Obama. Myself and the two others, Conservatives and we don’t love Obama.
My son a Marine-under Iraqi Freedom- is a moderate Republican and hates Democrats and what they stand for. My daughter former Army National Guard Chaplain Assistant- a Conservative.
My brother in law- Vietnam Navy Medic- a hardcore, 2nd amendment, guns out blazing Conservative. My sister- Conservative.
I would tend to believe most are Conservative/Republican because why else would they make it so hard for them to vote over-seas, planes crash with the ballots on board, late ballots arriving from over-seas, etc.
When things get down and dirty I expect the military to be mostly out of the country, probably involved in one or more wars. When/if the Left decides to do a real takeover they will move what is left of the military far from the US. However much they homosexualize and feminize the military and shear it of combat capable officers they still fear it. That will not change.
Here is some polling from 2008.
No way was the Army going to be as big after WWII as it was during the war, but Truman did institute our first peacetime draft. His opponents accused him of not doing enough to purge the military -- of Communist sympathizers.
I also seem to remember something about Lyndon Johnson increasing the size of the military. What you say is certainly true of Clinton, but wasn't some reduction in force inevitable with the end of the Cold War?
While I’d have been proud for you to be my son’s platoon sergeant, my friend, I’m here to tell you there are still damn good people in the military, especially one corner of the United States Army I can tell you about. There, military bearing, honor and loyalty to an ideal still mean something.
Best to you.
Thank you for that, Colonel.
Here’s hoping they’re not the last holdouts.
Lyndon increased the size of the military due to an active manpower intensive war going on. He also purged “unreliable” officers. Truman did not limit his displeasure to MacArthur.
I believe you are correct.
While I haven’t been in the military for over twenty years, I do have a son in the infantry and he reports that the military he sees, is “F....ed up”. One thing he says is that a vast majority of enlisted men in the infantry (at least in his unit and those he’s worked with) are conservative in political views but those in support or “office” units seem to be pretty liberal. However, He also says that many of the conservative war fighters are disillusioned by the current leadership in their command and are getting out in droves.
While it may be true that at some point in the future, the fighting arms of the military may become largely liberal, one aspect of liberalism that will make this not as threatening as it sounds is that liberalism breeds lies and laziness. A hundred “combat clerks” could be easily defeated by a handful of real world conservatives willing to do the hard work for victory. So, I agree that organized civilian militias are needed to defend freedom as espoused by the Constitution, but we don’t need to match federal troops one to one.
& the non-conservatives, on the average, tend to be democrat more from family or "identity-group" background, not so much because they buy into all the left wing ideologies. In fact they tend to be more socially conservative (family values, patriotism, etc.) than other democrats.
I’ve been in the USAF since ‘86 (10 year active and 8 Reserve) with numerous joint service posts. It has been my experience that the majority of military members are conservative, with a large apolitical group and a minority of liberals. The powers-that-be have been pushing the liberal agenda hard since before my time, but it has not changed the general outlook. That said, we spend way too much time and money on “ism” courses and those in the service are limited in our response by competing values.
However, the majority of the top leadership is strictly political, and there has been a severe culling since Obama took office. This comes from many high level scandals, voluntary retirements of good officers, and the increased promotion of those who support the current agenda.
The effects of these changes have been dramatic with a decrease in morale and discipline, despite the increased positive support of the public thoughout this long period of war. One of the most telling changes has been the number of sexual assaults on same sex members. Since the implementation of DADT, this has grown exponentially and now exceeds heterosexual assaults. I haven’t seen this discussed in any of the hundreds of hours of training.
Not coincidentally, there has been an outright war on Christianity across the board. It has taken many faces, but mainly shows in a vague unease regarding all matters of faith. Like tests in school, combat and deployments guarantee there will always be prayer in the service, but it is slowly being driven to the ground level rather than being supported from the top as was general practice when I entered.
We have the best military the world has ever seen. Young and old, I would put them up against anyone, including the greatest generation. They are honorable, dedicated and professional, and I am proud to be part of it. In my opinion, however, if things continue down this path, at some point, we will be left with a completely amoral military and that is not something that any nation can survive.
Thanks for your service. I know in my son’s case, he hasn’t been discouraged from practicing his faith (he’s a born-again Christian) but neither has it been encouraged. He’s also one of the biggest soldiers in his company so if there are any thoughts of advantage of him he can stop those thoughts at the front door. If the military does indeed slump to an amoral state, it won’t because of either of you.
He’s noticed, though, that the soldiers in his unit are either outstanding or, to use his words, “useless”. There does not seem to be a middle ground.
I was in the Air Force for just under 7 years. This was in the Reagan/Bush/Clinton era. I'd say the liberals to conservatives in my area of operations at the time was about one liberal to every two conservatives. We had some hard-core leftists. Granted, this was the Air Force, which tends to attract more of that type, simply because they can get the bennies and not have to do the same jobs as the Marines, Army or Navy. So, yes, I've met many. Some I went in with are now in positions of authority after more than 25 years in. Ardent Obama supporters and anti-conservative.
Thank you, sir and thank you for your son’s service. One of my son’s is a corpsman, and he has seen quite a bit of intimidation from his jarheads over the years, but he is a strong man as well.
It does seems that there is less middle ground everywhere these days. The good ones still outnumber that bad, and I fully believe that God always preserves His remnant.
Well stated!
There is always the erroneous “Guns vs. Butter” loved by the libs. Couple that with the natural desire of American to have a small standing Armed Forces and the libs regularly use it to eviscerate the strength that enables us to produce butter.
Until the next threat. And this time it may be too late.
I know a USNA Plebe very well. He thinks most Plebes are libertarian.
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