[BikerJoe]

On TV, looks to me like Pitt games are full of empty seats and that the city is more of a Penn State city than Pitt Panther city…..and the crowd for Stiller games seems packed and jacked all the time.

The Steelers crowd is definitely jacked (as in Daniels), which is part of the reason we don't go to the NFL games anymore. The Pitt games CAN be sparsely attended, (they tend to get a guaranteed 20-30K in attendance, more for big games/homecoming), but when I compare the two, the NFL games just seem...corporate...if you know what I mean...

[C. Edmund Wright]

Yeah, I know what you mean about the corporate atmosphere…that’s the NFL.

And 20-30 thousand in that stadium looks like the cleaning crew…..not like the Dan Marino days.