Posted on 02/01/2014 8:34:39 AM PST by Yooperman
Amendment 14 - Citizenship Rights 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
I say NO. The illegal mothers are not subject to the jurisdiction of the US.
No
Perhaps you mean the plural of baby, which is babies.
They are future democrat voters so the answer is yes.
Only since we have become tolerant of their presence here has this clear qualification become muddied.
No the 14th ammendment has been misinterpreted to allow illegals to come to the US give birth and have a US citizen to “anchor” them here permanently. That is not what the 14th ammendment was created for. The USA is the only nation on Earth who allows this nonsense. It needs to stop.
How do you think all these illegals get EBT cards? They have at least one kid born here who is a US citizen so they run down to family services and get signed up.
If illegals aren't subject to the jurisdiction of the U.S., then we can't arrest, prosecute, and imprison them for committing crimes in the U.S.
You’re completely right but this is one of those issues where the facts don’t matter. The people who control the military and the police make the rules. It doesn’t matter what the constitution says.
I think that Israel and the United States are the only countries that grant citizenship to all that are born in the countries.
Illegals may not be subject to our hurisductuib
but any person born here is
WE should have amended that years ago
There was an effort to do that but it got stalled
Now the ONLY way to stop this anchor baby crap is to not let illegals give birth here
and you know how that would go over
So they aren’t ‘subject to the jurisdiction thereof’ until they are caught. Otherwise they are not even known to be in the country.
Go back to kindergarten and learn to read and write. Stop embarrassing yourself.
If the Mexican Embassy has to be notified when one of its nationals is arrested in the USA, then that is prima facie evidence that the person is not fully “subject to the jurisdiction thereof”.
One suggestion. When my children were born I was not a citizen (my husband was), if fact when my oldest one was born I was here on a student visa, I wasn't even a legal resident. Therefore I think I know what I'm talking about when I suggest that all babies not born to TWO American citizens would need to go through some application process in order to become citizens. It wouldn't have to be too complicated, just making sure that the non-citizen parent is here legally, it could be done when you apply for the social security number at the hospital!
The anchor baby concept is just more liberal perversion of the law.
Its a convoluted issue but by inaction it has effectively become law that children get citizenship. We have considerable birth tourism going on these days.
At this point we have grandchildren of children born to illegals being born here.
“Anyone born in the USA is a citizen”
then yes, they would be. But it does NOT say that. it says:
“Anyone born in the USA, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, is a citizen”
Big difference, and I would submit that being here illegally is NOT subject to the jurisdictions of
The problem is NOT our current immigration laws, which are similar to every other country on the planet, it is that THEY WERE NOT ENFORCED for 20 to 40 years. So we have people here who are not legal who have never lived in Mexico or China or wherever. How do you send them ‘home’ when they have no home there?
We have to acknowledge that the USA is at fault for not enforcing laws and take care of people that got here during that time (make then GUEST WORKERS BUT NOT CITIZENS!!!) and stop the rest from coming in, according to existing laws. There is no need to 'reform' laws you have not been enforcing.
Ooops! I meant "need an amendment. I hope I beat the spelling police...
Sort of. Technically they are dual or triple citizens, they are citizens born abroad of their parents’ countries first and foremost, but they have the right to assert US citizenship when they reach majority.
Until such a time as they surrender their citizenship in their parent’s country or countries as adults, they are not full US citizens.
There should be no provision for dual citizenship, one cannot serve two masters.
Just my 2¢...
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