Cold Case Posse Asked Orly to Stand Down

Orly Tatz | 2/4/2014 | Orly Tatz

[GregNH]

Dear Orly:

I have been in daily contact with Detective Lieutenant Mike Zullo from the Sheriff Joe Arpaio Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office Obama Fraud Investigation – sometimes twice daily.

I’m sure you also might have heard that Lt. Zullo is preparing to release his some evidence that will truly be universe-shattering, and the knowledge we have is truly something you’re not going to be ready for.

This will absolutely, definitely change the eligibility landscape by 10,000%.

Mike has asked me to communicate with you that the new evidence – which, let me tell you, is so all-encompassingly gigantic, so incredibly huge – that we were hoping we could ask you to cooperate on one front.

Now, since we’ve all been vindicated 1,000% on the birth certificate issue, since Lt. Zullo’s forensic investigation has been so comprehensive, it’s really irrelevant compared to the new, shocking & completely emasculating evidence. The birth certificate is truly no longer of any real concern.

And we feel that way also about the Social Security Number issue.

Mike said he was slightly embarrassed but he feels as though there might be some unnecessary friction between you two, even though we all share the same goals, and that we and the posse support all the work you’ve done over the years.

But we would like to request that you stand down with regard to your ongoing court cases, which appear to have already run their course, you must admit. I cannot overstate the importance that your cooperation will bring to the disclosure of this essential information.

If so, we’d request that these court proceedings be respectfully closed by March 19, when Lt. Zullo and Sheriff Arpaio and I will make our announcement. And believe me – it’s going to be the most incredible, universe-shattering thing you’ve ever heard!

Mike said he’s confident that you’ll cooperate, as we bring to a close this horrible chapter in our fine, Christian country to a close.

Thank you in advance, Dr. Taitz. It will be a pleasure to watch Mr. Whoever-he-is be taken where he needs to be taken.

With our most humble respect,

The Rev. Dr. Carl Gallups, M.Div. ppsimmons Radio Ministry http://www.carlgallups.com WEBY 1330 a.m. Freedom Friday

[DiogenesLamp]

Typewriter pitch doesn't line up. This was noted by Viscount Christopher Monckton of Brenchley.

Apparently whoever cobbled it together didn't think to make sure that the individual printed letters would align in the proper position as they would if such a document were typed on a type writer.

A type writer cannot place a letter in the space that would ordinarily be between two letters. That such exist on his document demonstrate it to be a fabricated lie.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2014/01/obamas_other_big_lie.html

[freepersup]

Is it even possible to write a provision more lax, than what Hawaii has, in their birth recording stipulations?

[MMaschin]

I believe in the principle of Occam's razor, and therefore find it hard to get caught up in all the coverups, particularly when I find them not necessary.

This is what I believe to be a likely scenario, and it requires no modifying of INS records, or newspaper microfiche.

Stanley Ann was described in high school by her classmates, as a "fellow traveler", one stated that Stanley Ann once told her "she didn't need a man to have a baby". While I don't give much credence to second hand accounts directly, I do think they have value as corroborative evidence. And I'm therefore believing that Stanley Ann was a bit rebellious.

* After high school, Stanley Ann goes to Chicago and spends the summer of 1960 working as an au pair.

* Stanley Ann becomes pregnant while in Chicago.

* Stanely, and Madelyn decide to move to Hawaii.

* Stanley Ann decides to move back to Seattle. She leaves Hawaii after she finishes the fall 1960 semester.

To add a little bit to the Seattle->Chicago->Hawaii->Seattle movements of Stanley Ann, I think it helps to explain that while Stanley and Madelyn were Marxists, Stanley Ann went past that to the radical stage.

I believe that, that led to her desire to be in Chicago. I also believe that even though they were small 'c' communists, they did not approve of how radical she had become. So, after she became pregnant, and to get her away from the radicals, Stanley decided to get her away from Chicago, and even away from Seattle, so they decided to move to Hawaii. But Stanley Ann was too radicalized, she would not stay in Hawaii, and so a compromise was made, and she was allowed to move back to Seattle - more radical than Hawaii, but not so much so as Chicago.


* In March or April, either because of her rebellious nature, or for economic reasons, Stanley Ann crosses the border, and gives birth. Because she does not need a man, she does not name a father.

* Only after the birth she finds out she has a problem - because 1) the birth is in Canada, 2) she did not list a father, and 3) she is only 18, the baby does not acquire US Citizenship.

* Between April, and August, Stanley, and Madelyn come up with a plan. They will claim that Stanley's baby was born in Hawaii, as a home birth. In case there is an investigation of the facts of the birth, they ask Obama Sr to allow them to use him as the father. And tell him, if anyone asks, all he has to do is tell them yes, he's the father. This results in the confusing INS documentation - when he's asked, he says he's the father, but sometimes when filling out forms (because he doesn't want to go to jail for the Dunhams), he does not claim Jr.

* With Sr backing them, the Dunham's register the birth in August. They had to wait long enough for the timing to allow for the facts they were presenting.

* The above scenario results in the birth announcements being generated in the newspapers, and the INS documentation. It also explains Obama's complete lack of interest in both Stanley Ann (he never lived with her), and Jr (his lack of claiming him as a son on his INS forms). *Note* that lack of interest may have changed when he was afraid that his visa was not going to be extended, and he thought he was going to be deported.

* It also explains the fake BC, and Hawaii officials willing to state that Obama does have a Hawaii bc, and Tim Adams claim of no hospital generated BC. He has a Hawaii bc, but if it was to be released, and it showed a home birth, that might be enough to get a real investigation started. One that might find 'universe shattering' evidence.



In the above scenario, the 'universe shattering' information that would result is that not only is Obama not a US Natural Born Citizen, but he never naturalized, and is therefore not even a US Citizen.

[Red Steel]

"Full faith and credit shall be given in each state to the public acts, records, and judicial proceedings of every other state.

The Framers didn't add in "but this doesn't apply if certain persons express doubt about State X's records." "

No Crook, it's not about the US Constitution in this instance. It's about Hawaiian officials using legalize and parsing to cover their butts. We see Onaka did not use the same language that are on genuine HI long form birth certificate. Hawaii had no real trust in the information they put forth that it is truthful.

[CpnHook]

The truth is that Onaka DID NOT verify anything.

“[I] verify the following:
1. A birth certificate is on file with the Department of Health indicating that Barack Hussein Obama, II was born in Honolulu, Hawaii.”

No, gosh, I guess he didn't. He didn't verify no nuttin' about Obama being born in Hawaii.

What you claim and the words on Onaka's correspondence are much at odds.

If you look at the image of the 'verification' that has been posted, it clearly shows the initials of the person who stamped Onaka's name to the document.

An so long as Onaka authorized that person to sign and send the letter under his name, the law treats it as his act. It's call the "law of agency." I've not seen anything where Onaka has disavowed the three state verifications as being unauthorized. Have you?

Also, I'm still waiting for an reply to the post (#195) that clearly shows elements of the BC file released by the WH were copied and pasted from other elements on the file.

I already showed you where Ivan Zatkovich (who has bona fide credentials in this area) indicates that such doesn't not prove elements were added to the document. Unless you wish to establish your superior credentials in this matter, I'm going with him as the more credible witness.

With this, I'm done for the day here.

[DiogenesLamp]

Thank you. I actually joined last March. Though I only post sporadically.

And from every perusal I have ever made of your posting history, it is always on this one subject, and nothing else.

So as to the question "Was Barack Obama born in Hawaii?" that statement is about as simple and direct an affirmation that Hawaii's vital records indicate "Yes" as one can draft.

Not at all. A much better affirmation would be the one Hawaii used routinely for so many Years before Obama gained political power.

"I certify this document to be a true and correct copy of the original record."

What Hawaii affirmed is that the information they printed on the document produced, matches the information which is in their records. It doesn't prove it to be true, and it doesn't prove it to be the ORIGINAL information in their records.

Even were it that, as probably the only state in the Union who will give a birth certificate to the children of Hawaii residents no matter where said child is born, a statement that it was original information still does not count as proof because Hawaii routinely and as a matter of state law, gives out birth Hawaiian birth certificates to people not born there.

[DrDude]

Agreed.
Just another opinion, what if the current POTUS is not BHO II. That could explain why the BC, even if forged, is moot. If the CCP could prove who this imposter is, the BC, SS#, Draft Form, etcc would be entirely moot. They would be much “lessor” crimes than the assumed identity to gain POYUS. Holder is in this up to his Commie Neck. He has been doing some stupid things lately which tend to show his nervousness. The refusal to let the IRS testigy comes to mind. If BHO II goes down, Holder goes down even harder. He knows exactly who this guy is and everything about him.

[Red Steel]

Yes, you should be done here with the nonsense you promulgate.

[Red Steel]

Watch out for the usual OBot tactic of ingratiation when they’ve been exposed.

[DiogenesLamp]

Nobody is buying the carefully worded lawyer lingo. You can keep repeating it, but you aren’t persuading anyone that it proves anything.

[FR_addict]

“Be that as it may, you still have to admit that a purported criminal investigation agency allowing a small-market, low watt radio preacher to be its insider spokesperson ranks as “utterly bizarre.” Right?”

I agree. Orly said that she got a phone call from Carl Gallop and he said he didn't write the email she received. Why doesn't Zullo call her directly. And if Carl Gallup is not a spokesman for Zullo, he should say so.

On Orly's site now:

I got a letter from Carl Gallops and a call from him, he states that the comment sent earlier today did not come from him or Zullo. I promised to post his letter and I am posting it here. the IP of the prior comment is 184.8.135.37.

I told Gallops that since I have him on the phone, I would like to ask him a couple of questions. I asked, why didn’t he report on my ongoing cases? He said that he invited me before. I responded that the last time I was on his show, was in 2009, 4 years ago. I stated that he reported repeatedly on someone else’s case in AL, which was dismissed and on appeal, but he did not report on numerous other cases that were filed by me. He said that he did not know about them, that nobody gave him info on any of my cases.

I further asked him for the affidavit of expert Reed Hayes, so I can submit it to court. He said that it was copy-righted by Arpaio and Zullo, so it will not get into wrong hands and so that if anyone uses it, they can sue that person. I responded to Carl that he was a police officer and that he knows or should know that a sheriff cannot copyright an expert affidavit relating to a serious crime and sit on it for a year, that this is obstruction of justice. Gallops responded that he knows only what Zullo said on his show

CARL’S LETTER

Dear Ms. Taitz,

This is to advise you that I did not write the letter you have posted on your website under my name. I have never said such things, much less expressed them in a letter to you or anyone else. Furthermore, Mike Zullo has assured me that if you can provide him with the I.P. address of the letter that he has the ability to trace it down to determine the actual sender.

[Ray76]

If there is no problem the BC would have been provided to Bennett. Instead he was made to amend his request, he was to refer to an internet image and ask that the information thereon be “verified”. This is a clever way to control the questions asked, and hence, to prevent disclosure of the whole truth.

The WHBC is not to be presented to any court or election official. Obama’s legal team has said it is not to be relied upon.

The WHBC, produced with fanfare, is nothing but a PR stunt.

[Ray76]

>> With this, I’m done for the day here.

Too much for you, Red?

[little jeremiah]

I rather doubt that. No vital records office is ever going to hand out an original birth certificate.

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If the b.c. is from another country, often bribery works. Or LE.

[FR_addict]

Good points.

[little jeremiah]

Based on CCP history,

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They’ve done a lot of work dissecting the forgeries. For a noob, you sure have a nasty attitude towards LE trying to bring criminals to justice.

[CpnHook]

A type writer cannot place a letter in the space that would ordinarily be between two letters. That such exist on his document demonstrate it to be a fabricated lie.

By the same 'reasoning,' one would have to conclude that the lines on the original form were fabricated, since they don't consistently stay even with Moncton's grid.

The letters appear even within individual boxes, save for some capitals where the entire carriage 'shifts.'

In any event, this is likely a scan of a copy of a copy. And notice how everything at the left 'curves.' One can't draw conclusions about the integrity of the original based on this.

(OK, now I'm done.)

[little jeremiah]

It is huge. And they did say that a while ago that they were getting a lot of info sent to them, and every bit of that they of course have to investigate for legitimacy, what kind of evidence, questioning people, etc.

[MMaschin]

LOL! You don't do much to hide the fact that you are an Obot - do you?

Make sure you get paid before the house of cards falls down!

[GregNH]

They would be much “lessor” crimes than the assumed identity to gain POTUS

If your driving drunk and run over someone you get charged with vehicular homicide but they will still through in the misdemeanor of having an open container in the car. The BC is the open container....