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Anti-Obama 'Birther' Supports Canadian-Born Sen. Ted Cruz for President
OPPOSINGVIEWS.COM ^ | Thursday, January 16, 2014 | By Michael Allen

Posted on 02/09/2014 10:56:46 AM PST by FreeAtlanta

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To: Brown Deer

I wasn’t spreading lies. I said what I thought was the truth and you corrected me. You can still do what I said before.


61 posted on 02/09/2014 4:58:05 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The only way women can "have it all" is if men aren't allowed to have anything.)
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To: Nero Germanicus

There has been no doubt that something was being covered-up about Barry’s birth. The question is what? I lean in the direction of his true parentage not his birthplace. Once they lied about his real father it created a need to fabricate later for student aid. At that time nobody would have dreamed he would run for President. When he did run for President they had to scramble to make the whole story believable which required more fabrications.

The newspaper listing in Hawaii at the time of his birth tells me he was born there. Occam’s Razor applies. The simplest explanation is usually the best.


62 posted on 02/09/2014 5:24:20 PM PST by Oklahoma
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

A Y-Chromosome DNA test for Barry and selected male descendants of Barack Obama, the Kenyan, and of Frank Marshall Davis would prove conclusively of whether or not one of those two individuals was the father of Barry Obama Soetoro Obama. Who knows? Maybe it was the third man.


63 posted on 02/09/2014 5:29:28 PM PST by Oklahoma
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To: Oklahoma

I’ll bet Reggie Love (the bodyman) could come up with a sample of Sweet Barry’s DNA.


64 posted on 02/09/2014 5:36:31 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: This I Wonder32460

Don’t know.

What we do know about Cruz, and don’t know about Soetoro, is that he was a U.S. citizen at birth.

It is only highly probable that “Natural Born Citizen” meant “born of two citizen parents” in 1789; it is not a certainty. The text of the Constitution makes perfect sense even if “NBC” is interpreted to mean “citizen at birth.” That would distinguish the citizenship requirement for the Presidency from the citizenship requirement for election to Congress.

There is no evidence that Soetoro is ANY kind of U.S. citizen, other than a crudely forged “birth certificate.”


65 posted on 02/09/2014 7:23:49 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: Brown Deer

Please feel free to believe whatever you want to believe. However the very first word in the memo is “claims.” It is Barack Obama Senior doing the “claiming.”


66 posted on 02/09/2014 10:36:36 PM PST by Nero Germanicus (PALIN/CRUZ: 2016)
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To: Oklahoma

Barack Hussein Obama Senior claimed paternity of Barack Obama Ii as early as August 31, 1961, just weeks after the birth in an interview with the Immigration and Naturalization Service.


67 posted on 02/09/2014 11:03:18 PM PST by Nero Germanicus (PALIN/CRUZ: 2016)
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To: Nero Germanicus; Oklahoma
However the very first word in the memo is “claims.”

and the words following "claims" are about intent to attend the University of Hawaii for another year, and you interpret that as paternity?


68 posted on 02/09/2014 11:14:10 PM PST by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: FreeAtlanta

This is where i’m at. Since article II is effectively a dead issue, we might as well support our best candidate regardless of his NBC status.


69 posted on 02/10/2014 7:55:44 AM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: Brown Deer

“Claims” covers statements made by Barack Obama Senior for the entire INS memo, so yes, he claimed paternity of a son, Barack Obama II born in Honolulu on August 4, 1961. It was not Mr. Wood of the INS making that claim.

That paternity information corroborates the Certificate of Live Birth data, the Health Bureau’s “Hawaii Births” Index Data, the 1964 Dunham-Obama Divorce Decree and the “Health Bureau Statistics” data published in both major Honolulu newspapers on August 13 and August 14, 1961.

Cute cartoon, though! :-)


70 posted on 02/10/2014 9:19:14 AM PST by Nero Germanicus (PALIN/CRUZ: 2016)
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To: Nero Germanicus
he claimed paternity of a son, Barack Obama II born in Honolulu on August 4, 1961

Nonsense, there is absolutely nothing in that handwritten memo showing that he claimed paternity of anyone, whatsoever. Only in your dreams.
71 posted on 02/10/2014 12:29:55 PM PST by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Windflier

My point was, the idea of whether George Washington was a ‘natural born citizen’ was irrelevant when George Washington was elected, and it’s irrelevant to the situation today.


72 posted on 02/10/2014 5:35:14 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: SuziQ
My point was, the idea of whether George Washington was a ‘natural born citizen’ was irrelevant when George Washington was elected, and it’s irrelevant to the situation today.

You and I are on the same page there. In my view, our constitutional republic is a figment of some people's imagination. It doesn't, in fact, exist.

We patriots and conservatives really need to get up to speed with where the game truly is, and respond to the enemy accordingly. That means we need to stop trying to work within a system that only exists on paper, and fight to win our country back with the proper strategies, tactics, and degree of force necessary to win.

73 posted on 02/10/2014 5:49:01 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Brown Deer

We’ll have to agree to disagree.


74 posted on 02/10/2014 6:03:53 PM PST by Nero Germanicus (PALIN/CRUZ: 2016)
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