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To: holden

It appears to me that you might have misunderstood what I wrote. British law made James Buchanan Senior and his son BRITISH citizens for life, not American citizens. Both Buchanans also had American citizenship by virtue of American law.
British law also made Chester A. Arthur and his father British citizens but the law was changed in 1870 so that Chester A. Arthur lost his British citizenship at that time.
British law also made Barack Obama Senior and Barack Obama II British Empire citizens (the official designation was “Citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies (CUKC)”), but when Kenya gained independance, both Obamas lost British Empire citizenship and gained Kenyan citizenship. Barack Obama II lost Kenyan citizenship in 1983 when he did not select it. Kenyan law did not permit dual citizenship.
The state of Hawaii has confirmed Obama’s original birth vital record and nineteen different court decisions have ruled him to qualify as a natural born citizen for Article II, Section 1 purposes.
Here’s one example of a ruling:
Purpura & Moran v Obama: New Jersey Administrative Law Judge Jeff S. Masin: “No court, federal, state or administrative, has accepted the challengers’ position that Mr. Obama is not a “natural born Citizen” due to the acknowledged fact that his father was born in Kenya and was a British citizen by virtue of the then applicable British Nationality Act. Nor has the fact that Obama had, or may have had, dual citizenship at the time of his birth and thereafter been held to deny him the status of natural born. It is unnecessary to reinvent the wheel here. … The petitioners’ legal position on this issue, however well intentioned, has no merit in law. Thus, accepting for the point of this issue that Mr. Obama was born in Hawaii, he is a ‘natural born Citizen’ regardless of the status of his father.” April 10, 2012


210 posted on 03/12/2014 11:52:52 AM PDT by Nero Germanicus (PALIN/CRUZ: 2016)
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To: Nero Germanicus

So I guess all of our presidents have been illegal. Since most are descendant with British blood.

I guess I’m British. I never knew.

Maybe just forget the constitution and fundamental remake the country, since it’s a down right mean country anyway.

We don’t need the free speech clause or separation of powers. We have Obama and the IRS.


211 posted on 03/12/2014 12:07:17 PM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: Nero Germanicus
Thus, accepting for the point of this issue that Mr. Obama was born in Hawaii

That is a fact not in evidence, one of many on which you've relied to build your houses of cards, as seen on FR. There is no reason to presume such an assertion from this "witness" to be true, as he has already given false testimony.

Your blathering based on lies or unsubstantiated myths from this incessantly lying WH wastes everyone's time, as you assume things to be true that most likely are false.

Barry's minions excoriate as "conspiracy theorists" well-reasoned critics that are merely left to qualify their highly probable assertions, saying that although their conclusions may diverge from the WH propaganda, given the number of times Barry has lied and/or covered up the truth about that or similar issues, WH propaganda should can no claim any presumption of truth without proper substantiation. Thus, my assertion about your wasting our time is entirely justified.

"The only people, who don't want to disclose the truth are people with something to hide." BHO

HF

214 posted on 03/12/2014 1:18:32 PM PDT by holden
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To: Nero Germanicus

We have Turks women coming here, giving birth,bringing the baby back to Turkey.

Under your definition, they are NBC. That is insanity my friend.

I will never agree with you.

If you succeed, and they succeed, the republic is lost.

Ben Franklin, John Jay., they were right.

A republic if you can keep it.

When do we stop calling it a republic? After one party openly uses the IRS to attack dissent? After a president changes law by himself, 20 different times? Or 10 years layer? It matters not, we lost it.


217 posted on 03/12/2014 2:10:51 PM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: Nero Germanicus

We have Turks women coming here, giving birth,bringing the baby back to Turkey.

Under your definition, they are NBC. That is insanity my friend.

I will never agree with you.

If you succeed, and they succeed, the republic is lost.

Ben Franklin, John Jay., they were right.

A republic if you can keep it.

When do we stop calling it a republic? After one party openly uses the IRS to attack dissent? After a president changes law by himself, 20 different times? Or 10 years layer? It matters not, we lost it.


218 posted on 03/12/2014 2:14:58 PM PDT by PA-RIVER
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