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Cosmos with Neil deGrasse Tyson: Same Old Product, Bright New Packaging
Evolution News and Views ^ | March 10, 2014 | Casey Luskin

Posted on 03/10/2014 6:58:19 AM PDT by Heartlander

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To: CedarDave
Ya. I was waiting for the global warming BS. It was subtle if it did happen.

I found it ironic scientist questioning global warming are treated the same way as Bruno. Like a religious heretic. Degrase emphasized that we must “question” because that is the scientific process.

However, remember: global warming is a done deal, no questions, no debates allowed.

21 posted on 03/10/2014 7:51:10 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: Heartlander
I was disappointed with the show for several reasons. First, there were several references to how Christianity was an impediment to science. It was in some ways, but that's just the way things were in human history. There were plenty of other impediments over time, and there still are.

Second, I did not like the global warming lecture.

Next, the music was loud, awful, and unnecessary.....they tried to make it into a sci-fi thriller. I had to turn it down. I think it dumbed down the show.

And last, Tyson was good, and himself, but I much prefer Sagan's original series.....and Sagan's presentation. I wish they had changed the name of this new version and had left the name Cosmos as Sagan's alone. It was so unique, and well-done that it should stand alone as the only Cosmos.

22 posted on 03/10/2014 7:54:22 AM PDT by Swede Girl
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To: wally_bert
A great series. Unfortunately, it is not on netflix. But it is on youtube.

Here is the wikipage.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connections_(TV_series)

I said “billions and billions” a couple of times while watching. My wife didn't get it until I explained it to her. She laughed at me for being weird.

23 posted on 03/10/2014 7:57:43 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: dhs12345
Ya. I was waiting for the global warming BS. It was subtle if it did happen.

There was a quick reference when he was talking about the formation of coal from trees.

24 posted on 03/10/2014 8:00:03 AM PDT by CedarDave (Obama - "That's the good thing as a President, I can do whatever I want" (02/10/14 declaration))
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To: Swede Girl
“And last, Tyson was good, and himself, but I much prefer Sagan's original series.....and Sagan's presentation. I wish they had changed the name of this new version and had left the name Cosmos as Sagan's alone. It was so unique, and well-done that it should stand alone as the only Cosmos.”

Agreed.

Kind of ironic too that mainstream science the inquisition of our times. The science inquisition. If you question global warming, you are a heretic and banished from publications, newspapers, and the general media.

25 posted on 03/10/2014 8:04:34 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: CedarDave

Exactly. My wife noticed that and pointed it out to me. I missed it.


26 posted on 03/10/2014 8:05:42 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: Heartlander
During the first episode, Tyson devotes lengthy segments to promoting the old tale that religion is at war science, and strongly promotes the idea that religion opposes intellectual advancement. He tells the story of the 16th-century astronomer Giordano Bruno

Bruno was a maniac who was responsible for having priceless works of Renaissance art burned in the public square of Florance, where, fortunately, he met his own demise later since the citizens there had enough of his insanity.

I will have to check this series out for myself to see what they are presenting. DeGrasse Tyson was on FOX over the weekend and noted that the show was shown on FOX and will be aired tonight on National Geographic which is partially FOX owned. If this series attacks religion, FOX didn't do its home work.

Just as with biological evolution, you can believe in the science without being atheist, although atheists would like you to believe otherwise. We may find out the “how” but only religion can tell us the “why”.

27 posted on 03/10/2014 8:13:30 AM PDT by ZULU (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: cripplecreek
Wow thanks for sharing that clip. Love how they all got a good laugh. Interesting that the guy said Fox News viewers are"Squirrel eating reactionary homophobes"....considering the type of activity that marks the homosexual community.
28 posted on 03/10/2014 8:14:48 AM PDT by happyhomemaker (Rejoice in hope, be patient in tribulation, be constant in prayer. Rom 12:12)
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To: Swede Girl

Christianity, in the form of Catholicism, saved western civilization.

It was monks, toiling away in the monasteries, copying priceless ancient manuscripts, and not Islam, which preserved the knowledge of the Ancient World. Clergymen like Bacon, Copernicus, and Mendel, made valuable contributions to modern science.

And Gallileo’s problems, while ostensibly religious, had more to do with Gallileo’s personality and Italian politics, than with sience.


29 posted on 03/10/2014 8:18:14 AM PDT by ZULU (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: SolidRedState
I watched a few seconds of the promo a week ago - and switched channels ... finally settling for off. If something has some guy/gal with two last names, you know it will be bad/liberal dog poo.

Yet, persecution of scientists with a point of view different from the mainstream goes on, and on, with the scientist in question eventually proven correct, even if it takes hundreds of years.

I remember in college, all those long decades ago, being told in Geology 101 that mountains were created by the wearing down of the land over eons ... it was settled science.

Some grad student, leading the class one day, mentioned there was some guy with the wacky theory that the surface of the Earth was composed of plates which moved! And these collided to make mountains ... a good laugh was had by all.

Then years later, after the scientist had died ignored and disgraced, some other grad student proved he was right ... and so the science of plate tectonics came to be.

30 posted on 03/10/2014 8:21:53 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Heartlander
The irony is that viewers were then immediately told by series host Neil deGrasse Tyson that science follows a "set of rules." It should:

"follow the evidence wherever leads,"
"question everything," and
put things to the test.



LEST, of course, thou art questioning the alchemy of AGW...in which case thou art a heretic and must be burned at the stake...

So from the get-go, the host proves he is a hypocrite, as he practices not what he preaches...typical of the AGW cultists. Sorry NDT...no cred whatsoever.
31 posted on 03/10/2014 8:22:49 AM PDT by rottndog ('Live Free Or Die' Ain't just words on a bumber sticker...or a tagline.)
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To: cripplecreek

Disgusting. I shoulod have known better. These people are so vile. They can’t help but inject a political agenda into EVERYTHING they get involved with.

deGrasse Tyson runs the Hayden Planetarium in New York City, so one would expect him to be a Democrat, but he apparently went out of his way to attack us here.

The interviewer looks like a degenerate sodomite if I evere saw one.


32 posted on 03/10/2014 8:25:12 AM PDT by ZULU (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: ZULU

Anybody who follows the astronomy threads here at FR knows that I love the sciences but I have little use for such disrespect.


33 posted on 03/10/2014 8:28:49 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: kingattax

Cosmos ping


34 posted on 03/10/2014 8:31:36 AM PDT by left that other site
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To: cripplecreek

I was educated as a scientist, and have no problem reconciling the Bible with evolution and the Big Bang Theory. Love reading cosmology and astronomy and biology books and papers also.

I really, really, really despise the liberal establishment and blame their monopoly on the colleges and mainstream media for all the problems, domestic and foreign, America is experiencing today. I saw it in the 1960’s when I was in college and it is worse today.

The only kind of Republic which can function is a Republic of Virtue and they are destroying that here.


35 posted on 03/10/2014 8:40:07 AM PDT by ZULU (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: joseph20

It sucked.

The one singular message of the show was “Catholics are evil.”


36 posted on 03/10/2014 8:45:34 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Ted Grant
Along those same lines, Stephen Hawking is a brilliant astrophysicist, but when he drifts into his atheistic themes, he makes a very poor theologian.

I have two simple questions for physicists. 1. What existed prior to the big bang? 2. What caused the big bang?

The sound you hear after that is crickets, chirping very quietly.

37 posted on 03/10/2014 8:59:11 AM PDT by Pecos (The Chicago Way: Kill the Constitution, one step at a time.)
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To: Heartlander

I love this irony. Creationists teach their children dysfunctional science, taking them out of the competition. Sweet.


38 posted on 03/10/2014 9:06:37 AM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: ZULU
Giordano Bruno's Cosmology was a relatively minor part of the charges against him which included blasphemy, immoral conduct, and heresy in theology of the Trinity, divinity of Christ, virginity of Mary, Mass, and beliefs in magic.

His defense strategy involved acquiescing to Church dogma while holding onto his views on cosmology. The Inquisitor would not accept less than a full recantation of all beliefs. Bruno at length refused which led to the sentence of death. He was burned at the stake by Roman secular officials.

As with Galileo, his persecution by the church likely had more to do with his abrasive personality and obnoxious tactics than his cosmology. Contrast these two with Copernicus who published similarly radical ideas about the cosmos 30+ years before his death (the Commentariolus) without suffering imprisonment or similar persecution.

39 posted on 03/10/2014 9:07:18 AM PDT by Jeff F
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To: Heartlander
"follow the evidence wherever leads,"
Unless it disproves man-made climate change.

"question everything,"
Except man-made climate change.

put things to the test.
Except sun-based or other alternative theories of climate change.

40 posted on 03/10/2014 9:09:04 AM PDT by montag813
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