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Mom arrested while trying to console special needs son in school
Yahoo! ^ | March 21, 2014 | Will Lerner

Posted on 03/23/2014 4:15:46 AM PDT by Altariel

Missouri resident Niakea Williams was at home, in bed when she got a phone call from Walnut Groves Elementary School. She was told that her son, Michael,who has Asperger’s syndrome, was panicking. Niakea quickly head over to her son’s school, got buzzed in, and immediately went to find Michael. As KMOV News 4 reports, what happened next has Ms. Williams furious.

Ms. Williams, though she had been buzzed in as a “known parent” by school officials, apparently broke protocol when she did not sign in before heading to Michael’s classroom to console him. Williams admits this but feels she was justified, telling KMOV, “I didn’t sign the book, but I had to check on my son.” She told the principal to bring the book to her and she’d sign it, but the administrator had other ideas. Niakea recounts, “She said, ‘Oh no, I’ve already called the police.’”

She had indeed called the police. Calverton Park Police showed up and put the school in a 12-minute lockdown due to an “unauthorized entry to a school.” Williams was arrested and taken to the police station on trespassing charges. This all despite her being a known parent at the school who actually had met with the principal just one day prior.

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To: pieceofthepuzzle

Bingo. Almost certainly this was a retaliatory move.

But suing will only hurt the taxpayers, not the government employees, I’m afraid.


81 posted on 03/23/2014 6:37:27 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Altariel

It doesn’t even have to be “danger” - it only has to be ... “Who is allowed access legally, by the paperwork which is signed and in the office?”

That is the primary consideration.


82 posted on 03/23/2014 6:38:59 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Altariel

The buzzing at the door is so the person can come to the office where the identification takes place. If it is necessary for the ID to be pulled out and verified with the paperwork, the ID will be handed to the office person in the office and not at the door.

The door is not for identification. It is to prevent unhindered and direct access - so that no one passes through that door without the office knowing. That’s the first “line of defense” so that if anyone goes past the office without being identified in the office - then the police can be called immediately and that gives the police the advantage of precious minutes to apprehend someone who has not been identified.


83 posted on 03/23/2014 6:45:52 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler

Bingo. My son attends a private school and they have similar security protocols.

When parents divorce, as so many do these days, and are battling for custody of the child, abductions from school by one of the parents is a real problem a school has to deal with.


84 posted on 03/23/2014 6:51:00 AM PDT by Jacvin
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To: Jacvin

Yes, and that’s why we explain it for the others who may not be familiar with all the necessary things that schools must do in order to see that the child continues to be in as safe an environment as possible and gets handed off to the right person.


85 posted on 03/23/2014 6:55:04 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Altariel

“The police should have refused to arrest her.”

Oh my gosh, you are right.

It’s really like the world has lost the ability to think. And did they not request that she come to the school?

Who exactly are the “special needs” people in this story?


86 posted on 03/23/2014 6:58:24 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: Star Traveler

The moment you permit someone entry into the building without identifying them, you undermine your own security.

Sadly, the idiocy of not identifying someone before permitting them access will almost certainly continue to be practiced (and be defended) until tragedy strikes and someone who is buzzed in reveals his or her criminal intent—with tragic consequences.


87 posted on 03/23/2014 6:58:52 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Jacvin

The case in the article is not a child custody case. The child was in no danger of abduction.


88 posted on 03/23/2014 6:59:39 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Wolfie

Couldn’t you just start your killing spree after signing in? Once you’ve been buzzed in, what is signing a piece of paper going to prevent?


89 posted on 03/23/2014 7:10:00 AM PDT by Husker24
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To: Altariel

You would have to actually construct the building differently to change that. These buildings were built many years before it became such an issue with schools and security.

In my day ... in school ... parents could come right in, unhindered, go to the classroom and proceed to beat up the teacher - which happened a few times at my school. Heck ... on my first day of school, I narrowly missed being shot (left the area of gathering for students), and someone else was shot and killed, with a few others wounded. That was back in 1964. The principal got beat up a time or two, also ... :-) ...

Things are different these days. And if this was a newer building, the structure might be built differently.

Under the present circumstances, I would say a cop at the door would be a good addition, who could then insure that no one would get past without going to the office. But even then, the people in the office aren’t keeping shotguns under the desk or guns on their belts - so if you’ve got a real criminally crazed person ... the police are going to have to deal with it.

This security that is in effect now is to make sure the right person has access to the child and not to stop determined and armed criminals.


90 posted on 03/23/2014 7:10:45 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Altariel; Jacvin

The problem is - you don’t know that until the person is checked with their ID and with the records.

You’re reading this “after the fact” where you have been provided the details. What the schools do is “before the fact” when none of this is known.


91 posted on 03/23/2014 7:15:24 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Husker24

This security protocol is not for the crazed and criminally insane person. That is going to take armed personnel to deal with them.

What this security protocol is for - is related to the paperwork that you sign upon enrollment, which tells the school who is allowed access to your child. They are following that legal paperwork that was given at the beginning of the year.


92 posted on 03/23/2014 7:19:01 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Altariel

That doesn’t address the point I was making that there are sound reasons for some (not all) of the security protocols at schools.


93 posted on 03/23/2014 7:21:01 AM PDT by Jacvin
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To: Altariel

This what happens in govt controlled schools. Its not public school anymore.


94 posted on 03/23/2014 7:32:10 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Altariel

This is the core of ignorance being trusted to educate our children. Stupid non-thinking robots that are indoctrinating the children in the same philosophy they were taught.


95 posted on 03/23/2014 7:47:18 AM PDT by JayAr36 (When an American dies Obama lies. And lies, and lies and lies forever.)
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To: Star Traveler
No, everyone is buzzed in ... and then they proceed to the office to be identified.

If "everyone is buzzed in" then why do they have the buzzer in the first place?

96 posted on 03/23/2014 7:55:10 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: Husker24
Once you’ve been buzzed in, what is signing a piece of paper going to prevent?

It's a magic piece of paper.

You call the mother, the mother comes to the door, you let her in, she goes to check on her child, you throw a fit because she didn't "respect your authority" by coming before you and begging humbly your permission to see her child and call the cops.

These "procedures" do nothing to protect the children. They are all about the egos of the petty tyrants getting stroked.

97 posted on 03/23/2014 8:02:18 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: Star Traveler
No, everyone is buzzed in ... and then they proceed to the office to be identified

Then you have NO security in place!

98 posted on 03/23/2014 8:36:49 AM PDT by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: Amagi

I think I just had a warm memory.

I went to a one room school from 2nd grade thru 7th grade. 8 grades-—14 kids-—one teacher. No running water. It was brought in every day in a milk can. No indoor bathrooms—you complete the picture. One Merry-Go-Round was the playground equipment. We had one day in fall & one day in spring when we had no classes, brought yard tools to school & WE cleaned up the schoolyard. There was no janitor. WE cleaned the floors & put coal into the furnace & spread the clunkers out on the driveway.

It was in rural Wisconsin.

The school board consisted of parents/farmers and other local property owners. NO school board member was a ‘former teacher & NONE of the school board members got paid.

That one night of the year, even my parents quit arguing & went to the school board meeting. It always was heavily attended.

TEXTBOOKS were actually looked at by the parents & the school board. The school owned the books.

The teacher was voted on—every year.

I would be willing to bet:

At least 50% of those 14 kids had at least some college classes.

At least 50% of that half got a 4 year college degree.

Many of those kids were business owners & self-employed....the 4 kids in my family all have been self employed most of their lives.

I don’t think a single one of the 14 has ever been in prison or ‘gone wrong’ in any way.

I would put my education up against any other kid you can name today. People still comment about my memory & tell me that they hope to be a sharp in the mind when they are my age. 74.

Today’s schools are a union controlled joke.


99 posted on 03/23/2014 8:37:20 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: 2nd amendment mama

Not for crazed and criminal thugs. You would have to design an actual prison type facility to gain that type of security. And the fact of the matter is that the vast majority of the public does not want to change their way of life “that” drastically - in all the various venues that we go into (besides schools) to protect against every conceivable and outrageous thing that can happen. So ... with the public in general ... you’re never going to have that level of protection.

What this does ... as it is now (and as I said up above) ... is insure that the paperwork that was signed at the beginning of the year for who is to have access to the child and who the school is supposed to “hand off the kid to” is followed - according to that signed paperwork.

THAT is mainly what it is for.


100 posted on 03/23/2014 8:45:53 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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